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Deconstructing Star Wars and 'The Last Jedi'
Weekly Standard ^ | 5 Jan 2018 | Hannah Long

Posted on 01/05/2018 9:41:37 AM PST by Rummyfan

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1 posted on 01/05/2018 9:41:37 AM PST by Rummyfan
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2 posted on 01/05/2018 9:47:23 AM PST by Boogieman
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The whole article is a spoiler.

BTW, as a Christian I see the movie as exposing the meaning of life without God.


3 posted on 01/05/2018 9:52:36 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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First SW film I skipped since 1977. I’m grateful to Disney for helping me put away childish things.


4 posted on 01/05/2018 9:53:24 AM PST by proust (Since a politician never believes what he says, he is quite surprised to be taken at his word.)
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meaning = meaninglessness


5 posted on 01/05/2018 9:53:24 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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Good way to put it. I’ve not seen it either. I saw the first one 26 times in the theater. I own Rebel One and like how it wraps all the prequels up right to the very second the first movie starts.

I’m good. The kids can have fun with it from this point on. :)


6 posted on 01/05/2018 9:54:51 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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Meanwhile, Rey is stuck on an island with Luke Skywalker, who’s doing Alec Guinness by way of grumpy cat ...

Okay, that was funny (and accurate.) But I stopped reading at the point where she says that Rey fails to turn Kylo from the Dark Side. This isn't necessarily true. He kills Snopes (or Snork or whatever) and is left in the position of having an Empire before him with a sudden job opening at the very top, and himself as the most likely successor to the throne. This is not Dark in and of itself. He could take command and change the direction of the First Order. The fact that he holds out his hand to Rey and says, "Rule with me" indicates a willingness to do just that. Why she rejects him is beyond me. My only answer is that they need to squeeze one more movie out of this material.

7 posted on 01/05/2018 9:58:07 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Play dhimmi games, win dhimmi prizes, nÂ’est-ce pas? -tomkat)
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Without a coherent mythos,Star Wars is declining into a modern version of the science fiction movie serials of the 1930's that inspired George Lucas. Soon enough, public interest will wane.
8 posted on 01/05/2018 10:03:00 AM PST by Rockingham
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Shame, you missed a good film


9 posted on 01/05/2018 10:04:09 AM PST by Jarhead9297
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My only answer is that they need to squeeze one more movie out of this material.

Or a theme park.

-PJ

10 posted on 01/05/2018 10:08:20 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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I am skipping it as well - first for me as I have seen all the others.

I heard Alex Jones say the movie was one big Social Justice/Politically Correct propaganda machine wrapped up in script. Not sure if that is correct, but I have read enough bad reviews to not want to go see it.

11 posted on 01/05/2018 10:12:15 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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Got the best explanation last night of this movie from a friend of our nephew, who’s in his early 30s. The “Star Wars” franchise decisions have been taken over by the Millennials. Their generation absolutely loved “The Last Jedi”, according to him. Us old farts, to whom Mark Hamill is a contemporary, don’t understand the new direction. Besides, it’s JUST a movie.

I guess so. My major problem, besides all the PC bullcrap, is that ‘TLJ’ did little or nothing to extend the story lines of previous editions, but didn’t work as a stand-alone movie. Mainly because the writers assumed we all knew who the characters were.


12 posted on 01/05/2018 10:14:46 AM PST by ssaftler (Just another day in the land of the fruits, nuts and flakes...)
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When I first viewed the trailer for the new Star Wars movie, my first impression was: “Are you kidding? Another Buck Rodgers story?” But after viewing the movie, I was hooked. Since then I’ve come to the conclusion that without the John Williams’ soundtrack the movie would have not been nearly so popular. I remember the great Musicals of the thirties and forties, wonderful tunes wrapped around average plots. Maybe this is not a good analogy but great soundtracks sometimes make the movie. Of course this is just IMHO.


13 posted on 01/05/2018 10:16:03 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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New movie = the first Star Wars movie.


14 posted on 01/05/2018 10:17:21 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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You're right.

From the article:

"..... The Last Jedi spends an entire film demolishing organized religion"

That was the intent of the nihilistic atheists who wrote it.

That was "the message."

And then the article's author says this:

"It didn’t have to be this way. Hopelessness isn’t inevitable in a story about failure. Take the other major modern myth, The Lord of the Rings. Failure is central to its plot, yet it is never hopeless. Tolkien wrote, "I am a Christian and indeed a Roman Catholic, so that I do not expect 'history' to be anything but a 'long defeat'—though it contains (and in a legend may contain more clearly and movingly) some samples or glimpses of final victory." In this vein, Tolkien's characters all see their quest—to take a magic ring into the very heart of enemy territory in order to destroy it—as a desperate venture, nothing more than "a fool's hope." Yet they fight on, nonetheless, because of faith in an ultimate victory and inspiration from an ultimate beauty."

15 posted on 01/05/2018 10:20:09 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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Somewhat windy discussion that hits a few good points. I disliked the ineptitude of the leaders of the rebellion. They never seemed think even slightly ahead and were always caught with their pants (well, OK, skirts - since most of the leaders are ladies) down

Which makes you wonder: what happened to the men? Except for that one rather excitable pilot and a nearly worthless used-to-be Jedi, the males seemed to given up and went home to raise the kids.

Great special effects and some fun parts but on the whole, strange.


16 posted on 01/05/2018 10:20:24 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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Since then I’ve come to the conclusion that without the John Williams’ soundtrack the movie would have not been nearly so popular.

Star Wars Minus Williams - Throne Room


17 posted on 01/05/2018 10:24:21 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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He could take command and change the direction of the First Order. The fact that he holds out his hand to Rey and says, "Rule with me" indicates a willingness to do just that.

Exactly. He says "it's time to let old things die." Seems that would equally apply to both the Rebellion and Empire.

18 posted on 01/05/2018 10:24:50 AM PST by montag813
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Once I heard a purple haired female captain would fight a giant white ship called "supremecy" I lost interest.


19 posted on 01/05/2018 10:27:08 AM PST by proust (Since a politician never believes what he says, he is quite surprised to be taken at his word.)
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A long boring feminist sermon.


20 posted on 01/05/2018 10:36:34 AM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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