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Educational Rot
Townhall.com ^ | Dec 27, 2017 | Walter E. Williams

Posted on 12/26/2017 9:10:12 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

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To: BobL

Sitting here laughing! :)


21 posted on 12/27/2017 5:36:56 AM PST by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: metmom

Another Reason to Homeschool

If there are any educated children in nation it is because they have been homeschooled or “after-schooled”.


22 posted on 12/27/2017 5:38:32 AM PST by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

My guess is that these are questions that an eighth- or ninth-grader with a good education ought to be able to answer.

Gimme a break, these are 3rd grade questions.


23 posted on 12/27/2017 5:40:38 AM PST by eyeamok (Tolerance: The virtue of having a belief in Nothing!)
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To: Jim Noble

“People who take this on face a sullen, restless, hostile group of adolescents who neither want to be there nor are willing to comply with minimal organizational requirements.” (Jim Noble)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

These young adult ( who have committed no crime) are imprisoned by law in a school that in many ways resembles a prison.

Then... society wonders why they are **rationally** sullen, restless, hostile, truant, and sometimes violent.


24 posted on 12/27/2017 5:47:07 AM PST by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: eyeamok
The answers can be found in any Saxon Math 5/6 book.
25 posted on 12/27/2017 5:48:14 AM PST by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Recently, New York, after being tied up in court for years, dropped its teacher literacy test amid claims of racism.

Yup. Buffalo, NY.

Been going on for decades.

The high school teachers could not pass the basic literacy tests high school students are expected to pass and their immediate reaction was cries of *racism*, which everyone else in the Buffalo area laughed at because the minute that charge was leveled, we KNEW which group of teachers was failing.

26 posted on 12/27/2017 5:48:59 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the other articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

27 posted on 12/27/2017 5:50:06 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: CurlyDave
Thank you! A balked at responding to that post - no wish to offend - but you are absolutely correct.

Try geometry, trig, complex numbers, calculus without understanding simple ratios, and...uh...good luck!

28 posted on 12/27/2017 6:29:10 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (High taxes + Government = Disorganized Crime)
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To: Oldexpat

The purpose of a masters degree is to increase salary.

The educational funding is to benefit educators, not students. Students are cannon fodder for educator guns


29 posted on 12/27/2017 6:36:12 AM PST by Thibodeaux (2018 is looking good)
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To: Thibodeaux

The truth:
1. Educators get masters degree for the increased salary not to become better teachers.
2. Teachers unions are impotent, and merely a wing of the administration in schools.
3. The standards on becoming a teacher are watered down, to essentially, “do you have a pulse”, because no one wants to do the job.
4. The career lifespan of a new teacher is less than five years.
5. Because of politics, teachers have no authority to even control the slightest discipline infractions, truly, public education is baby sitting.
6. As a teacher I deserve a raise in salary and your thanks because I keep these feral bastards off the streets and stealing from you while you work.
7. Our hope is that by the time they graduate, they may have matured enough to know right from wrong, or they are already in prison or dead, or have enough skills to inquire, “do you want fries with that”. Nothing more.


30 posted on 12/27/2017 6:43:40 AM PST by krug
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To: dr_lew

Ability to convert fractions to decimals is pretty basic stuff. I wouldn’t consider it arcane at all.


31 posted on 12/27/2017 7:08:07 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: cherry

I agree. That carp about underpaid teachers is garbage.


32 posted on 12/27/2017 7:48:45 AM PST by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: Jim Noble

It’s not so much the teachers as it is the curriculum in lower grade schools. They teach just about anything but the basics.


33 posted on 12/27/2017 7:51:16 AM PST by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: BobL

If you think schools are free you must live where there are no property taxes.

I’m looking at my 2018 property tax bill and well over 10% of it is devoted to school related items. Plus, 1% of our sales tax goes to the schools. In Aiken County, SC the schools are definitely NOT free.

Walter Williams, as usual, has a very valid point.


34 posted on 12/27/2017 10:31:11 AM PST by upchuck (President Trump is great because he actually runs something other than his mouth!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom; GCFADG; cherry; Oldexpat; Political Junkie Too; dr_lew; SauronOfMordor; ...

This is a good article and a better thread. So let me ask the very bright people assembled a couple of questions:

1. What does victory look like?

2. How do we get there?

Somewhere north of 85% of parents choose to accept Aid For Dependent Parents and put their kids in the government schools. The remaining 15% private school or home educate. I don’t see how a political solution fixes this when 85% plus of parents have opted into the government school paradigm.


35 posted on 12/27/2017 4:26:24 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Hope and redemption are to be found in the Lord. Not in politics.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

I would say I agree with your tagline, and it answers your questions.


36 posted on 12/27/2017 4:42:47 PM PST by GCFADG (Pardon me.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

ps - but I am an idiot, so don’t take my word for it :-)


37 posted on 12/27/2017 4:46:46 PM PST by GCFADG (Pardon me.)
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To: GCFADG

We’re on a political website, so suggesting that nothing much of worth comes from politics is prima facie evidence of being idiotic. Or lazy. Or subversive. Or being inclined to committing all of the 7 deadly sins simultaneously. Take your pick.

Thanks for the reply.


38 posted on 12/27/2017 7:32:00 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Hope and redemption are to be found in the Lord. Not in politics.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

I’m going with idiotic. Lazy a close second.


39 posted on 12/27/2017 7:39:01 PM PST by GCFADG (Pardon me.)
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To: krug

“6. As a teacher I deserve a raise in salary and your thanks because I keep these feral bastards off the streets and stealing from you while you work.”


What are you saying here?

I hardly think all kids being taught by teachers are feral bastards.

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40 posted on 12/27/2017 7:41:21 PM PST by Mears
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