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The fate of America's only nuclear plant under construction will be decided Thursday
Washington Examiner ^ | Dec 18, 2017 | Josh Siegel

Posted on 12/18/2017 3:35:50 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

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To: BwanaNdege

All the rest being true, NIMBY isn’t a problem here.

Have you folks ever been to rural Burke Co. Ga?

It’s not even really good for farmland. Vogle’s closest neighbor is the Savannah River Site. Next is Girard, Ga. The folks there are making out well off of leasing their land to the workers at the plant to park their RVs.

I sometimes go that way to Augusta. It’s 20 miles from no where.


21 posted on 12/18/2017 10:31:56 AM PST by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: Conan the Librarian
...rural Burke Co. Ga

With this nuclear plant, the problem is not with folks in Screven, Jenkins, Emmanuel, Jefferson or Richmond counties worried about their back yards. It is the NIMBY folks in San Francisco, Cambridge Mass and Madison raising a stink about THEIR backyard of Planet Earth.

Add to them the political pandering class living in Loudoun, Fairfax, Arlington, Stafford & Prince William Counties, VA plus Howard & Montgomery counties, MD.

Finally, add the Greater NYC residents of the MSM and it seems that everyone is gunning to stop any nuclear plant construction.

22 posted on 12/18/2017 12:27:40 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

The one-off design approach of each plant ever built in the US is the major culprit. All of the fallout from changes required by the TMI accident should have been factored into this design as opposed to the plants that were under construction when it happened. Then there is always the over abundance of regulations


23 posted on 12/18/2017 12:38:58 PM PST by shotgun
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To: BwanaNdege

NIMBY? You have to admit, it sucks to be downwind of Fukushima’s 3 exposed nuclear cores just washing into the earth, sea and air, huh? Oh...wait...nuke threads pretend none of that even exists. Never mind.


24 posted on 12/18/2017 12:42:39 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: Borderline

The most efficient way to re-start the US commercial nuclear plant program would be to standardize the designs. If you look at the plants that built multiple reactors of the same design, the first one took the longest because of multiple design conflicts with its systems. The second plant takes about a 25% to 40% less time because they incorporated the needed design changes and if they built a third plant the time savings is approaching 50% or higher. That is what doomed WPPSS. 5 different reactor designs in 3 separate locations. And when they shut down plants 4&5 ( 1&4 we’re twins and 3&5 we’re twins) those two plants were only several months from the same phase of construction as their twins in less than half the time.


25 posted on 12/18/2017 12:55:04 PM PST by shotgun
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To: BwanaNdege

I can’t argue with that!

If we can just keep Winning, all will be well.


26 posted on 12/18/2017 1:10:37 PM PST by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: ransomnote

“573 deaths have been certified as “disaster-related” by 13 municipalities affected by the Fukushima nuclear disaster.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster_casualties

“In Japan, the National Police Agency has confirmed 15,894 deaths, 6,156 injured, and 2,546 people missing across twenty prefectures. In addition, some three thousands extra death have been identified as “earthquake-related death”, bringing the total number of death caused by the disaster to 19,575 as of 2017 September.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_T%C5%8Dhoku_earthquake_and_tsunami

2.93% Nuc;ear related deaths.

Context is everything.

For comparison:

“An estimated 88,000 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women) die from alcohol-related causes annually, making alcohol the third leading preventable cause of death in the United States. The first is tobacco, and the second is poor diet and physical inactivity.

In 2014, alcohol-impaired driving fatalities accounted for 9,967 deaths (31 percent of overall driving fatalities).”
https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-health/overview-alcohol-consumption/alcohol-facts-and-statistics

“Chicago marked 2016 as the deadliest year in nearly two decades, data released by the Chicago Police Department shows. The city saw a surge in gun violence in 2016: 762 murders, 3,550 shooting incidents, and 4,331 shooting victims, according to a statement released by the department on Sunday.”
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/01/us/chicago-murders-2016/index.html


27 posted on 12/18/2017 1:16:21 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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To: TexasGator

Yeah, you sure do want to be the all silencing know it all. I didn’t — you project. You couldn’t find a real witch if we put you in En-dor.


28 posted on 12/18/2017 1:18:03 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: BwanaNdege

Context is a lie controlled by the nuke industry and the governments that protect them. I don’t suppose you’re interested in the suppressed levels of medical problems (horrific) that doctors are forbidden by law to reveal, citizens are forbidden by law to report. So how about the mass die-offs in the ocean and on the shores resulting from Fukushima. Wait...wait...the gov provides you with cover so you can deny ALL that and just whine for more nuke plants and sneer at those who know there are 3 nuclear cores washing into the atmosphere and ocean and will continue to do so unchecked the rest of our lives.


29 posted on 12/18/2017 1:19:15 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Yeah, you sure do want to be the all silencing know it all.”

No. Just asking you to do your homework before mouthing off.


30 posted on 12/18/2017 1:20:39 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: ransomnote

“So how about the mass die-offs in the ocean and on the shores resulting from Fukushima.”

How about it? You seem to be the only one with knowledge of this!


31 posted on 12/18/2017 1:22:31 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: shotgun

“That is what doomed WPPSS. “

What doomed WPPSS was five guys trying to build plants when they had little experience in major projects.


32 posted on 12/18/2017 1:25:11 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: shotgun

“The one-off design approach of each plant ever built in the US is the major culprit. “

Please ...


33 posted on 12/18/2017 1:31:46 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: shotgun

If their were two sets of twins how could there be 5 different designs?


34 posted on 12/18/2017 1:32:59 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

$12.2 billion in costs for its 45.7 percent share of the project?? !!

It is just a turbine run by steam using water heated by atoms.


35 posted on 12/18/2017 1:34:15 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: shotgun

“those two plants were only several months from the same phase of construction as their twins in less than half the time.”

WPPSS 3 was at 73% and 5 at 16% complete when the projects were halted.


36 posted on 12/18/2017 1:35:08 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: TexasGator

My point exactly. You take inexperienced people and a fledgling big money nuclear technology industry and they bought into the multiple design concept using other people’s money.


37 posted on 12/18/2017 1:35:58 PM PST by shotgun
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To: TexasGator

You have personal experience on WPPSS projects?


38 posted on 12/18/2017 1:41:17 PM PST by shotgun
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To: shotgun

Yes.


39 posted on 12/18/2017 1:44:18 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: TexasGator

I was a pipefitter-welder on Plants 1,2 and 4.


40 posted on 12/18/2017 1:46:20 PM PST by shotgun
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