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The terrible cost of Trump's Jerusalem decision
Japan Today ^ | Dec. 8, 2017 | Peter Van Buren

Posted on 12/08/2017 2:20:41 PM PST by Eddie01

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To: Mears

Waiting for Trump to tweet “Unlike the previous president, I’m not afraid to call a spade a spade - Jerusalem is the capital, the law says we are supposed to move the embassy - so that is it.”


21 posted on 12/08/2017 3:05:27 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: Dagnabitt

>>Trump should have gone the extra step and actually moved the Embassy.

It could have been done instantly. Just change the name of our Consulate General in Jerusalem to “Embassy”.

(and that of our office in Tel Aviv to “Consulate General”)<<

Of course he could have, but I believe he will make the move when he judges it to be most advantageous to America and to Israel. In other words, when he chooses to demonstrate once again that he will not be dictated to by tyranny of the weak.


22 posted on 12/08/2017 3:10:26 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat
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To: Eddie01

Clinton, GWB, and President Zero all said that Jerusalem was the Capital of Israel.
But, when DJT says the same thing, all hell breaks loose. Disgusting.


23 posted on 12/08/2017 3:15:00 PM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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To: Eddie01

Read again who the author is. He is not a rep of the Japanese government.


24 posted on 12/08/2017 3:15:23 PM PST by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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To: Eddie01

>>It was a slow frog boil of the west.

Trump just turned the burner off.<<

For over 20 years this Palestinian nonsense has been caused by the tyranny of the weak. Well, the weak are no longer calling the shots. Thank you Mr. President!


25 posted on 12/08/2017 3:15:54 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat
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To: Eddie01
President Trump should pull out of the UN and kick that rotten bunch of dictators and communists rat faces the hell off our land.
26 posted on 12/08/2017 3:18:56 PM PST by Logical me
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To: Psalm 144

>> Most nations and people, being weak, just try to avoid it.<<

The tyranny of the weak is the cause of an increasingly dangerous world.


27 posted on 12/08/2017 3:19:51 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat
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To: Eddie01
Peter Van Buren

It is exactly this sort of idiot thinking that has kept the Middle East a mess.

The Palestinians are nothing, and we do not a sh*t give if they are in an uproar. Same goes for their supporter Euroweenies in Europe who can't even run their own countries properly.

Nobody who is worth a sh*t cares about this. Only bureaucrats and losers care about this. How about just going with the Truth?

Jerusalem is the Capitol of Israel, and our Embassy to that nation should be located there, and to h3ll with what anyone else thinks about it, especially the Diplomats who can't solve any problems.

28 posted on 12/08/2017 3:22:16 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Eddie01

What does a Japan care?


29 posted on 12/08/2017 3:22:30 PM PST by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democratt)
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To: familyop
President Clinton would have been the President who signed the congressional bill into law. And the first to sign a waiver to delay implementation.

Lots of can-kicking on this one. Thankfully we now have a President who understands how the American form of government works and will force the implementation.

On a related side-note, just think if Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell had included a clause in the various strongly-worded Obamacare repeals that allowed the President to delay the actual repeal every 6 months.

30 posted on 12/08/2017 3:24:14 PM PST by Bernard (If we could tax Stupid, Congress could balance the budget)
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To: Eddie01

Someone write that boy and tell him America First.


31 posted on 12/08/2017 3:27:49 PM PST by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!Goo)
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To: MNDude

That was my point of posting.

To note Japan is running anti-American propaganda.

Why would they do that with NK pointing weapons at them?


32 posted on 12/08/2017 3:31:50 PM PST by Eddie01
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To: Eddie01

Doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result, is the definition of insanity.

Keeping Jerusalem “on the table” for negotiations because the Paleostinians will have a $hit-fit otherwise has produced exactly NO BENEFIT for as long as it has been tried. All that has EVER happened is that Israelis, Americans or other Westerners, armed with notions like fairness and decency, have wracked their brains and expended considerable effort to devise a wide variety of peace plans...and then the Palestinians inevitably say, “No!” Hell, Bill Clinton even got the Israelis to agree to hand over 96% of Judea and Samaria, plus half of Jerusalem, and Arafag said, “No!” No one was more shocked than Bill Clinton at this, BTW.

Well, it is long past time to try something different. Israel has had its capitol in West Jerusalem since 1948. It’s people have had Jerusalem as their physical capitol for 1,000 years, and its spiritual capitol for 3,000. Israel, when forced to act to defend its very existence, took Jerusalem back from the then-latest occupier (Jordan), and (rightfully, IMHO) annexed the whole thing...while still giving every other religion the right to worship there. Israel has the most sophisticated and powerful military for at least a 1,000 mile radius, and possibly more, and several hundred deliverable nuclear weapons. The bare naked fact is that Israel has every reason to keep Jerusalem, and the means to do so against all comers.

The Fakestinians, OTOH, are a “people” that did not exist prior to being created about 70 years ago. Jerusalem was NEVER their capitol - not physically or spiritually - nor was it the capitol of any Moslem government that occupied it for over 1,000 years. They have NOTHING...except rage and terrorism.

What Trump did was to recognize reality, that’s all. He still explicitly left it to the parties to decide...but any realist knows that the decision has been made by facts on the ground and history.

This writer is delusional.


33 posted on 12/08/2017 3:54:04 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Eddie01

Yes a country that only allowed 3 or so muslim refugees in.


34 posted on 12/08/2017 4:01:17 PM PST by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: Eddie01

Peter Van Buren - like decades of failed State Department policy in refusing to come to terms with reality brought Middle East peace closer.

All President Trump did was accept a fact every one ostensibly knows to be true - Israel’s capital is Jerusalem.

If that’s true, why is every one upset about it?


35 posted on 12/08/2017 4:06:08 PM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Eddie01

36 posted on 12/08/2017 4:07:28 PM PST by Rastus
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To: Eddie01

Opposing evil men usually requires a sacrifice. Talk to our WW II vets about this.


37 posted on 12/08/2017 4:16:00 PM PST by Socon-Econ
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To: Eddie01

“Peter Van Buren, a 24-year State Department veteran” = PhD in blather.


38 posted on 12/08/2017 4:34:58 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: Eddie01
But long after the tear gas clears, American diplomats will find themselves hamstrung — entering negotiations on a full range of issues having to first somehow address the action taken by Trump.

I seriously doubt that American diplomats will find themselves hamstrung. American diplomats find themselves hamstrung now, as they have been for the past twenty years.

After a few days of mindless and pointless rage, we will be over this bump in the road, and on our way to a meaningful peace plan.

For one, the players in the failed peace process will be able to count on the word of Donald Trump, unlike previous administrations who were not dependable in keeping promises. President Trump has a reputation of being correct, consistent, and reliable.

39 posted on 12/08/2017 5:05:06 PM PST by olezip
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To: Eddie01
The Truth About Jerusalem Youtube 4:45 Paul Joseph Watson
40 posted on 12/08/2017 5:33:15 PM PST by TigersEye (0bama. The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.)
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