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DOJ May Consider Federal Charges Against Illegal Immigrant in Kate Steinle Murder Case
Townhall.com ^
| December 1, 2017
| Leah Barkoukis
Posted on 12/01/2017 8:48:16 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Dual sovereigns doctrine. Double jeopardy is not an issue.
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posted on
12/01/2017 10:07:28 AM PST
by
piytar
(http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Dual sovereigns doctrine. Double jeopardy is not an issue.
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posted on
12/01/2017 10:07:28 AM PST
by
piytar
(http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
How about income tax evasion?
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posted on
12/01/2017 10:22:07 AM PST
by
Delta 21
(Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
To: Kaslin
This verdict shows what “Social Justice” looks like.
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posted on
12/01/2017 10:37:35 AM PST
by
Oldeconomybuyer
(The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Unfortunately, the Feds cant charge him with murder, since double jeopardy would attach via the 14th Amendments incorporation clause, IMO. Yes but they can charge him with 8 USC 1326, Unlawful reentry after deportation. Its a slam dunk charge because they is no real defense.
There are automatic enhancements tagged on to the sentence based on past immigration violations and criminal history.
Given his past I would guess he would get 4 to 6 years to run consecutively along with his federal weapons charges.
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posted on
12/01/2017 10:38:42 AM PST
by
usurper
( version)
To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
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posted on
12/01/2017 10:57:08 AM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
To: vette6387
Huh? California is going to hustle him back to Mexico before the feds get involved.
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posted on
12/01/2017 11:21:53 AM PST
by
wiggen
(#JeSuisCharlie)
To: Kaslin
Sessions on verdict: Entire paragraph of limp-wristedness attempting to barely dip a finger into the pool of saying this might have been bad.
Trump on verdict: “disgraceful”
To: blackdog
You owe me a new keyboard.
Best laugh of the day.
Thanks
To: Fantasywriter
LOL. Thats a good one.
Politics is a scam and were suckers for playing.
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posted on
12/01/2017 11:45:12 AM PST
by
RKBA Democrat
(Hope and redemption are to be found in the Lord. Not in politics.)
To: Squantos
If I could get the shot, I’d take it.
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posted on
12/01/2017 11:51:35 AM PST
by
Carriage Hill
( Life is simpler, when you plow around the stump.)
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Unless Ms. Steinle was a member of a protected class such as politicians or postal workers out delivering mail, or unless the crime was on Federal property, there is no federal murder statute that would apply.
Re entering the US after deportation is a Federal crime as is being an illegal alien in possession of a firearm. So he could be charged with that.
Politics is a scam and were suckers for playing.
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posted on
12/01/2017 11:54:17 AM PST
by
RKBA Democrat
(Hope and redemption are to be found in the Lord. Not in politics.)
To: usurper
This is all wrong. He can be charged with the federal offense of being a felon in possession of a firearm. The concept of double jeopardy is not applicable.
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“Feds cant charge him with murder, since double jeopardy would attach”
Found this online, (assume that “Pennsylvania” could mean any state): “a defendant who has been acquitted of charges in the Pennsylvania courts could be charged with and tried in the federal system despite the fact that the defendant already won the case in Pennsylvania. This is because of the idea that the state and the federal government are ‘dual sovereigns.’ This means that under federal law, both the United States and state government may both prosecute you for a crime without violating the constitutional protection against double jeopardy if your act violated both state laws and federal statute.”
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posted on
12/01/2017 11:58:19 AM PST
by
MayflowerMadam
( "Free men are not equal, and Equal men are not free".)
To: RKBA Democrat
They were on the waterfront. Let’s hope they were visiting a federal port facility at the time.
To: RKBA Democrat
They should be able to charge him with violating her Civil Rights. That is what they charge citizens with if they hold illegals for Border Patrol or do anything to stop them from trespassing or committing crimes. I know someone who was sentenced to 20 years on federal charges of violating the Civil Rights of illegals on his property.
I doubt if it works both ways, but if she had murdered him they would have charged her with that; especially if she had been found not guilty of his murder by a state court.
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posted on
12/01/2017 12:49:52 PM PST
by
Tammy8
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Kaslin; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy
“Unfortunately, the Feds cant charge him with murder, since double jeopardy would attach via the 14th Amendments incorporation clause, IMO.”
That is incorrect. While the State of California may not bring murder charges again because jeopardy vested, under the “separate sovereigns” doctrine the U.S. government could do so (as could, in theory, any state other than California, assuming that they had jurisdiction). The real issue is what federal laws the illegal alien violated. It seems to me as if possession of a handgun as an illegal alien is one, and there may be some others, but, with few exceptions, manslaughter and murder are state, not federal, crimes.
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posted on
12/01/2017 1:10:44 PM PST
by
AuH2ORepublican
(If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
To: Tammy8
He is obviously a member of a protected class. Thus its unlikely that he will be charged. But there are clearly all sorts of crimes that he could be charged with.
Politics is a scam and were suckers for playing.
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posted on
12/01/2017 1:28:41 PM PST
by
RKBA Democrat
(Hope and redemption are to be found in the Lord. Not in politics.)
To: Kaslin
Highlighting mine:
Sessions did not discuss bringing any more charges against Zarate in his statement, only that the DOJ will continue to ensure that all jurisdictions place the safety and security of their communities above the convenience of criminal aliens.
Bless you Jeff Sessions for speaking the absolute truth. This man isn't an immigrant, he's a CRIMINAL.
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posted on
12/01/2017 1:35:37 PM PST
by
upchuck
("Ex-obama" ... That phrase itself honors America. ~ h/t glennaro)
To: Kaslin
Maybe he didn’t pay his Obamacare fine? — throw him in jail!
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posted on
12/01/2017 2:13:35 PM PST
by
nicollo
(I said no!)
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