NHS provokes fury with indefinite surgery ban for smokers and obese (socialized medicine)

The Telegraph ^ | 10-18-2017 | Laura Donnelly

[Rusty0604]

True, but that should be a personal decision based on risk/benefit.

[Lazamataz]

"Stop smoking and lose weight! Those things will KILL YOU!...

and we will KILL YOU by denying you medical treatment to make our point!"

[robroys woman]

My wife says I have an achilles heal regarding my kindness to and compasion for other human beings.

It kinda speaks to this article. i.e. I’m all for it in these two specific circumstances.

‘course, I have NO health insurance, so the concept of paying for surgery out of pocket is something that I think everyone should be legally allowed to do. At least that would be true in a remotely free country.

[Lazamataz]

Heavy,long time,smokers are not good surgical risks.Neither are those who are substantially overweight.

Therefore, kill them.

[Gay State Conservative]

See Post #18

[Skooz]

Any one who supports single payer is complicit in the horrors it visits on the people.

[robroys woman]

I think if a person can prove that they have some sort of physical condition (hyperactive thyroid, etc.) that causes their obesity, they should be able to waive this restriction.

[central_va]

Smokers should be required to have a license and to have special insurance to cover COPD and cancer.

[robroys woman]

Agree but that’s a decision for a surgeon and the patient. Not the government.

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Unless the government is paying for it, which is why I hate single payer and Obamacare.

[KC_Conspirator]

The Death Panel speaks! (With English accent)

[americas.best.days...]

You know that’s because it would significantly improve the outcome and benefit of the procedure, right?

[Lazamataz]

Smokers should be required to have a license and to have special insurance to cover COPD and cancer.

..... because we are a land of licenses. In fact, there should be a license for posting on the internet, and a license for journalists, and every gun sold should be on a license that is for you. Furthermore, if you are overweight, you should get an Obesity license so that you can buy food. And every single condition should require special insurance.

Any failure to do the above, and the government should KILL YOU.

[Lazamataz]

I think if a person can prove that they have some sort of physical condition (hyperactive thyroid, etc.) that causes their obesity, they should be able to waive this restriction.

The prognosis for the elderly is often poor. Therefore, the government should KILL THEM.

[central_va]

Furthermore, if you are overweight, you should get an Obesity license so that you can buy food.

Outstanding!

[Lazamataz]

Also, Elderly Licenses. Once you pass 50 years of age, you need to get an EL. All medical procedures will be denied the elderly, after all, their prognosis is worse than it is for younger people.

[Mariner]

“Heavy,long time,smokers are not good surgical risks.Neither are those who are substantially overweight. “

If I were a doctor or hospital owner I would refuse them service.

However, if a government entity can deny service for any reasonable cause, it won’t be long before they deny service for political reasons.

That’s a very high risk proposition for White People.

[DungeonMaster]

Heavy,long time,smokers are not good surgical risks.Neither are those who are substantially overweight.

That's the thing!

I have a 400 plus pound friend who had to get his knees replaced but still can't walk. It's all the doctor's fault.

[Darteaus94025]

What about people in the country illegally? Should they be allowed a surgery slot instead of a tax-paying, voting citizen?

[central_va]

You should need a license to get a license.

[Lazamataz]

You should need a license to get a license.

You should need a license to say you need a license to get a license.

America is so free.