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Was Las Vegas Massacre 'Fast And Furious' On Steroids...
All News Pipeline ^ | October 5, 2017 | Stefan Stanford

Posted on 10/07/2017 7:35:32 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose

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To: arthurus
The “profession” of gambler had to be a fake. The casinos wined him and dined him and gave him freebies they only give to big repetitive losers. Consistent winners get limited or banned from the premises.


The only way I know of that someone can consistently beat LV is through card counting. And, if someone won 10-15 thousand $ a couple of times, they would be banned from the casino, no questions asked. Card counting is not illegal, but the casino is private property and the successful counter would be asked to stay away. So, the "professional gambler making $5 million in a year" story is a phony one.

How can the media people be so stupid and gullible to believe this story, and pass it on as credible news? They just accept what the authorities tell them?

61 posted on 10/08/2017 5:56:54 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: foundedonpurpose
Do your own homework!


Please tell me how!

I lack the wherewithal, and the expertise to conduct my private, independent investigation. I am therefore relegated to armchair analyst.

62 posted on 10/08/2017 6:12:25 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: SteveH
actually, what it sounded to me is that there is a weapon discharging from afar, and bullets striking the ground nearby. however, it did not sound to me as if there were conclusively two distinct weapons involved since a bullet from one weapon could in theory produce a sound upon exiting the barrel at the source, and then that same bullet could strike an object and produce a second sound. of course it could be two rifles but logically from the above (i claim no expertise, just trying to follow along here) it does not rule out a single rifle scenario. ok, what am i missing...

What you're missing is that what you call bullets hitting the ground and others claim is an echo of the actual shooting in many cases takes place before the actual shooting volleys start...That's the cart before the horse to the extreme...

63 posted on 10/08/2017 6:26:05 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: arthurus

“He was obviously familiar with guns. It is an easy step to think that was his racket.”

Here is where I question that. It is not unusual for “gun enthusiasts” to acquire many, many firearms. What is highly suspicious is that “gun enthusiasts” generally show up at gun ranges and actually would have spent time firing, cleaning and learning about them.
Where are the stories from other shooters that remember this guy?
While it’s possible to accumulate knowledge on the subject from watching Utube videos, logic suggests he should have a history of actually practicing beyond a “maybe went out to the desert” a few days prior.


64 posted on 10/08/2017 6:31:32 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: Iscool; SteveH
What you're missing is that what you call bullets hitting the ground and others claim is an echo of the actual shooting in many cases takes place before the actual shooting volleys start...That's the cart before the horse to the extreme...

The sound of bullets hitting the ground nearby will occur before the sound of the actual gunfire due to the bullets traveling at supersonic speed.... The bullets arrive and impact before the sound of the shooting catches up.... echo takes even longer.

65 posted on 10/08/2017 6:38:29 AM PDT by fso301
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also that assumes that there is at all moments an unobstructed sonic path between the recording device and the source(s) of the bullets, and that the recording device does not have automatic noise reduction and auto voice audio boost on, etc. —i did not make any such assumptions in my statements.


66 posted on 10/08/2017 6:53:50 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: SteveH
also that assumes that there is at all moments an unobstructed sonic path between the recording device and the source(s) of the bullets, and that the recording device does not have automatic noise reduction and auto voice audio boost on, etc. —i did not make any such assumptions in my statements.

Yes and different devices treat audio differently which makes comparing videos not exactly an apples and apples comparison.

67 posted on 10/08/2017 7:14:14 AM PDT by fso301
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To: foundedonpurpose

My best friend and I were discussing this type of scenario yesterday. I have smelled false flag on this from the get go.

There was no reason for a lone wolf shooter to have 43 weapons in his room when he only needed 2-3. He was likely selling arms out of his room and at some point something went wrong. My guess is that Paddock was at room temperature when the shooting started. Probably at least two proficient shooters actually did the deed and then got away down the stairs which were adjacent to the suite.


68 posted on 10/08/2017 8:51:02 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: matthew fuller

The super abundance of BS is coming from theMSM and FBI as usual.

Just remember the FBI tried to hang the Olympic Park bombing g on Richard Jewell the security guard/here. I was calling BS on that one almost immediately. The FBI are the keystone cops and an arm of the deep state.


69 posted on 10/08/2017 9:00:38 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: fso301
The sound of bullets hitting the ground nearby will occur before the sound of the actual gunfire due to the bullets traveling at supersonic speed.... The bullets arrive and impact before the sound of the shooting catches up.... echo takes even longer.

OK but the point I was trying to make is that sometimes the nearer sounding shots were first and sometimes the furthest away shots were first...And sometimes they were together...

70 posted on 10/08/2017 10:38:03 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool
OK but the point I was trying to make is that sometimes the nearer sounding shots were first and sometimes the furthest away shots were first...And sometimes they were together...

A possible explanation is that when the nearer (higher pitched) sounding noises were heard followed by distant firing what was heard were rounds impacting nearby followed by the sound of the actual gunfire.

When the distant firing was heard first that may indicate he was firing somewhere else far enough away that the sound of impacts could not be detected by the recording device.

Imagine his muzzle wandering over a several hundred yard field of fire.

71 posted on 10/08/2017 2:30:00 PM PDT by fso301
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Bless your heart!


72 posted on 10/08/2017 7:08:49 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Prayers for Gods People! Salvation & Restoration!)
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