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Trump visit did not help Luther Strange, new poll says; 4 polls give Roy Moore big lead
Al.com ^ | 09/25/2017 | Paul Gattis

Posted on 09/25/2017 9:29:31 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands

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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Good.
Trump voters are smart enough to figure out who to vote for.


21 posted on 09/25/2017 10:10:40 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: bagster

Last year he backed McCain and Ryan, you’d think he would have learned......


22 posted on 09/25/2017 10:13:48 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

paid for by the 250K of NRSC money given by then-chairman Sen. Ted Cruz


23 posted on 09/25/2017 10:22:40 PM PDT by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
The Cochran win was a Pyrrhic Victory for the Republican Establishment.

Exactly so! It still burns.


24 posted on 09/25/2017 10:28:41 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal (I believe it! He's alive! Sweet Jesus!)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Those who are voting against Luther Strange because McConnell endorsed him are missing the point. As Trump pointed out in this weekend’s rally, Strange and McConnell have no history with one another. This is not a case of Strange being a McConnell lackey. This is an instance of McConnell trying to cultivate Strange to be one of his lackeys. Big difference. President Trump is fighting for Strange, a man who has supported him from the day he entered the senate, so that McConnell doesn’t get his hooks into him. If Strange wins because of president Trump’s endorsement, and in spite of McConnell’s, then president Trump will have prevented McConnell from using his support for Strange to extract loyalty from him.

People are totally missing what this is about. Yes, both McConnell and Trump are endorsing the same candidate, but they are opponents, battling for Strange’s loyalty. If Strange wins, because of Trump’s endorsement and in spite of McConnell’s he will owe McConnell nothing, and will know that with his continued support of Trump’s agenda, Trump will always have his back.


25 posted on 09/25/2017 10:32:10 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Moore will win big — maybe by 20.


26 posted on 09/25/2017 10:39:33 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Only their self-aggrandizement matters.)
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To: Parley Baer
Thanks for reminding me about Rove. He is another establishment bastard I despise.

Back when he was known as that Magnificent Bastard all he had managed to do was use all those Mexican voters he was going to use and managed to lose the House and Senate.

27 posted on 09/25/2017 10:54:16 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

A good solution to the dilemma of having two fine candidates seeking one office is for President Trump to nominate Sen. Strange to the vacant Homeland Security position.

After 7½ years, Senator Moore will be old enough to retire, and Mr. Strange can resume his senatorial career with an impressive Executive Branch service resume.


28 posted on 09/25/2017 11:23:06 PM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (12:01 PM 1/20/2017...The end of an error.)
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To: Ancesthntr

That’s what I think as well. This endorsement seems to be a detour for political reasons and he may be relieved when Moore wins.


29 posted on 09/25/2017 11:34:58 PM PDT by GnuThere
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To: nickcarraway; All

They (the RNC) did that in Mississippi - called the true conservative in the race a KKKer to black voters to get them to vote for the RINO in the primary.

Is this an open primary?

They might pull that dirty trick again.


30 posted on 09/25/2017 11:55:48 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: mbrfl

Interesting angle but anyone familiar with Alabama politics has known Moore is probably going to win the seat no matter what. Trump or his people would have known this. So maybe Trump’s goal wasn’t to secure a win for Strange per se, but instead just to demonstrate how much his intervention could shift the polls. He didn’t need Strange to win to show that his endorsement is good for a ten or fifteen percent bump. That’s probably why he came to Huntsville: to generate some additional movement in the polls that is unmistakably due to him. Then, once Moore nevertheless wins the primary, Trump will make amends with his AL base by fully backing Moore in the general. If Moore then wins the general decisively, which is likely, and especially if he wins against a scheming McConnell effort against him, that will be further proof of Trump’s influence.


31 posted on 09/26/2017 12:31:43 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
So there! We'll teach that Trump! Thanks Engraved-on-His-hands.

32 posted on 09/26/2017 12:35:18 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: dp0622

“Seems to me Trump knew this ahead of time and played it perfectly.

Can say he went to bat for Strange and Strange loses anyway.”

Is that such a great thing though? An influential endorsement can be big currency for a President with his own party, particularly leading into the midterms. Gotta figure there’s a lot of the GOP weasels still plotting about whether it’s better for them to stand with the President or stand against him through to 2018. If having the President go to bat for them doesn’t seem like it would swing the race their way, I can’t say I trust them not to treat that as a reason to stick the knife in instead.

I’d have thought the best result for the President here is one that shows his endorsement can be an election game-changer. That would get the GOP scuttling and creeping and pleading at his feet all the way to next November.


33 posted on 09/26/2017 1:10:04 AM PDT by The Numbers (God, Family and Country is Right.)
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To: mbrfl

Your calculus expects Luther to parse how many votes Trump got him from a visit versus how many vote McConnell got him from $9 million, and clearly give Donald the win?

What illegal drug do you inject?


34 posted on 09/26/2017 2:15:45 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Yes, and let’s NEVER forget that Rand Paul and Ted Cruz helped McConnell in Mississippi (again as per Sundance/Conservative Treehouse’s excellent research reporting).

Rand and Cruz are sleeper GOPe.


35 posted on 09/26/2017 2:39:54 AM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
President Trump is not the cause behind last year's electorate; he is the effect. As 60,000,000 voters said:


36 posted on 09/26/2017 2:43:22 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

I heard that in a race against his Democrat opponent, Moore is doing considerably better than Strange is. So much for Trump’s claim that if Moore wins then the Democrats might take the seat.


37 posted on 09/26/2017 2:44:29 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Lurkinanloomin

He has been isolated by Kelly and Javanka.
Fed bad polling data .
He should have stayed neutral but he supported a Fat Cat DC lobbyist.

Sadly , just wait until Kelly and Javanka force Amnesty on us .

It’s coming .


38 posted on 09/26/2017 3:35:49 AM PDT by ncalburt (ll)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Last year he backed McCain and Ryan, you’d think he would have learned......

Maybe he did... :-)

39 posted on 09/26/2017 3:37:34 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: nickcarraway

Sounds like at least one will.. trump. Why would he support a proven corruptocrat versus a genuine hero like Moore?
After months of not using the bully pulpit on the wall or on healthcare.. he finally uses it to trash a great American.


40 posted on 09/26/2017 3:47:06 AM PDT by momincombatboots (White Stetsons up.. let's save our country!)
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