[chajin]

Shudda let them keep Detroit

[Dr. Sivana]

Nonsense. I studied some of the debates that took place during that era, and there were a whole lot of people in Congress who had no interest incorporating a bunch of French-speaking Catholics. Were there those who wanted to annex Canada? Yes. There were also a whole bunch who wanted to take all of Mexico during the mid-19th century, some as raw expansionism, some as a way to add more slave-states. In neither case would it be right to say that these were wars of taking over Canada or Mexico. A faction does not determine the purpose of a war.

[VanDeKoik]

“Canada won the War of 1812”

Canada didn’t exist. It was a colony of Great Britain, no different than Bermuda, or Jamaica.

[Jim from C-Town]

There was no country called ‘Canada’ it was a British colony and is now a Common Wealth a sovereign nation with the Queen of England as its’ sovereign. So no Canada did not win the War of 1812. Nor did The United States. Briton didn’t really win either as its’ ultimate goal was a recapturing and reintegration of The American Colonies back into the British Empire. No land exchanged hands and the borders remained the same.

[Gay State Conservative]

In 1812 there was no such thing as “Canada” or “Canadians”.Great Britain,at that time the most powerful nation on earth (by far),was kidnapping our citizens at sea and forcing them into the British navy.That was a clear act of war...to which we,a new and very weak nation,responded.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

The Indians who had fought and died with promises of their own vast reserve were brushed aside as the British government sought to end the war in a hurry to avoid censure from its opponents in Parliament over the high costs of continuing the war. In a stroke of the pen, the Indens were cleared out of the way for American expansion and massive immigration that would gobble up their lands. And to the north, Canadians, by learning to bury ethnic differences and fight in common to resist the American invaders, emerged as a cohesive nation that, in not too many more years, would declare its independence from the British Empire.

Most of all, the War of 1812 was a defining moment in the economic history of the nation that emerged from a half-century-long trade war as a major maritime power, a sovereign nation with worldwide commercial networks. Decades of embargoes and blockades had encouraged the development of internal industry and transportation so that the United States no longer was dependent on European policies and prices. It was not the Second American Revolution. It was the War of American Economic Independence, the last chapter of the American Revolution.

Unshackling America: How the War of 1812 Truly Ended the American Revolution June 27, 2017 by Willard Sterne Randall

[Popman]

How could have Canada won the war of 1812 when they were not even a country ???

July 1 1867 they become independent from Britian

[familyop]

Not quite. The attack from ships against French Canadian militiamen at their settlements was a mistake instigated by an ignorant member of Congress, but that foolishness was reversed.

There were several important, long standing issues that rather needed to be settled with the British and what they were doing to U.S. colonies (kidnapping American men to enslave them on British ships, for one, British-planned and advised guerrilla attacks from Indian nations, for another). The War of 1812 went on into 1815 with increasingly more violent battles in U.S. colonies. Eventually, U.S. ships blockaded the English Channel. The U.S.A. won against the British.

It was really the second round of the American Revolution. Some Canadian militias defended their settlements from attempts of Americans to dismount from their ships and attack very well, but revisionism by uses of fallacies stinks.

[familyop]

As happens once in a while, my shrinking memory oversimplified an important part of history. The War of 1812 was a larger, more complicated mess than I remembered. Militarily speaking, the end result was possibly a tie...in a messy sense. In effect for the U.S.A., it turned out well.

As for Canadians, land-wise, they were Canadians. Nation-wise, they were British. I am reminded from a quick review that there were quite a few American leaders who wanted to annex Canada after all. So the British, French and Indian people in Canada did win after all. When attacked in some places (like York) then asked if they wanted to be liberated from the British, they answered no.

At the same time and before, the British were trying to regain control of The States in several ways: economic, geographical (American Indian guerrilla factions), people (capture and use of Americans on ships) and others (legal, etc.).

So Americans kept their country and reestablished some freedoms. British people and others in Canada kept their status as British subjects and separation from some of the affairs of The States.

So now that they’ve been increasingly more independent over time, what will Canadians do with the vast land of Canada? When will we be done with our monopolistic plutocrats’ stupid tariffs and duties against Canadian lumber?

[Jed Eckert]

Well that does it!

[Jimmy Valentine]

We invaded Canada in 1812 just like we tried during the Revolution. The Canadians repulsed the invasion at Quebec and we retreated back to the U.S. However, the Canadians did not follow up with an invasion of their own. They won the battle but not the War of 1812 (the hosers!).

[mewzilla]

What’s Canada?