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The day that destroyed the working class and sowed the seeds of Trump
New York Post ^ | September 16, 2017 | Salena Zito

Posted on 09/19/2017 8:06:04 PM PDT by MilesVeritatis

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To: rb22982

Right...And I guess it’s possible to juggle flaming chain saws while roller skating too.


121 posted on 09/20/2017 1:08:12 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: rb22982

lol....The average home in SF is about 1.5 million with an M.


122 posted on 09/20/2017 1:10:24 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I personally lived on $15k/year not all that long ago with zero gov assistance so yes it can be done. Having $15-$20k leftover after all housing expenses are paid for is definitely possible to live that way if you have no debt, albeit certainly not an enjoyable middle class/upper middle class lifestyle. But $60k in California is like $45k here and a family of 4 here will be scrapping by at $45k.


123 posted on 09/20/2017 1:17:20 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: dragnet2

Yes, I am aware. One of my favorite personal finance blogs (financialsamurai.com) lives in SF and talks about RE/rentals there all the time.


124 posted on 09/20/2017 1:18:15 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: KC Burke

Yep... mismanagement and greed killed the golden goose... the US had a lock on the world market post WWII but eventually these nations would and did rebuild and failing to recognize and plan for that by updating their plants and controlling costs they just bled the body from both ends union and management.


125 posted on 09/20/2017 1:21:32 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: rb22982

Assuming 10% down? Why would you assume that?

What’s 10% and a half a million dollar home? $50,000?

Where in tarnation are a couple making 60k a year between them, going to get $50,000 cash? For the most part, I can assure you, that’s not happening for the huge majority!


126 posted on 09/20/2017 2:17:22 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Lots of ways. 1) Savings 2) Sold another house and rolled over equity 3) inherit money 4) money from family 5) 401k loan; etc


127 posted on 09/20/2017 2:26:10 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982
Oh sure, two working young people in CA, dealing with sky high living costs in CA are going to save up $50,000 cash so they can buy a 48 year old, half million dollar home 45 miles each way from their jobs because they can't afford anything closer! Most those that tried that ended in divorce and or alcoholism.

No offense, but you don't seem live in the real world.

128 posted on 09/20/2017 2:33:55 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Apparently I do, since it is definitely happening.


129 posted on 09/20/2017 2:43:14 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982

No, it’s not happening. And if ya think most working 30 year olds in CA are married and are buying homes in S. CA you’re seriously naive, delusional not to mention you have not the slightest clue what you’re talking about.

Seriously, you have no clue in this matter.


130 posted on 09/20/2017 3:05:49 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: rb22982

Ya ought to go apply and the CA chamber of commerce...They’d probably hire you.


131 posted on 09/20/2017 3:07:37 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: central_va
How do you get a data plan for free?

I don't have one, it costs...ZERO.

132 posted on 09/20/2017 3:21:03 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Kill all mooselimb, terrorist savages, with extreme prejudice! Deus Vult!)
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To: dragnet2

You are right - the homes sell with multiple offers in one day because I’m wrong. /rollseyes


133 posted on 09/20/2017 3:57:21 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982

Wait, you’re the individual who thinks young 30 year old workers in CA are saving $50,000 cash for down payments to buy half million dollar homes on 60k per year *before* taxes.

You should get involved in a field where you actually know wtf you’re talking about.


134 posted on 09/20/2017 4:22:52 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I put 50k down on a house at 28 when my wife and I made about 60k total. And those houses aren’t selling themselves. I never mentioned any age anyway.


135 posted on 09/20/2017 4:27:30 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982

Going down memory lane now are ya? No you didn’t do that in 2017 CA, did ya?


136 posted on 09/20/2017 4:46:04 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: rb22982
In fact, what you did in the past, in Ohio or Hogjaw Kansas or wherever, does not mean zip in 2017 CA. You can believe what ya want, and it's clear ya do anyway.

Btw, we know lots of people in their mid 20s to mid 30s...None own their own homes. And the reason is simple, their incomes do not support CA housing prices or their punitive communist style taxes, which you seem to believe are reasonable.

Wowza...

137 posted on 09/20/2017 4:52:40 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: USS Alaska

Ok so how do you access the internet?


138 posted on 09/20/2017 6:53:40 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: dragnet2

No, but it wouldn’t have mattered anyway as most of it for me at that time came from inheritance from my aunt, although I had enough in my 401k at the time I could have taken half out for a loan for the same amount and I could have come up with half from cash, but I also wasn’t really trying to save money at the time either (we were spending $3-5k/yr on international trips). But I’m not sure why you are so argumentative on whether or not its real - because its occurring right now over and over again.


139 posted on 09/21/2017 3:01:11 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: DungeonMaster

Thanks for the ping.

Some of the comments in this thread ... Wow. If we followed their line of reasoning, we’d all be driving Trabants.

Okay, not Trabants but, we’d still be saddled (and happy) with 1960s build quality. Plus all the government-mandated safety and emissions standards, of course.

But, at least China wouldn’t own us.


140 posted on 09/21/2017 8:03:47 AM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson, 1824)
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