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Hurricane Irma Live Thread III
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Posted on 09/09/2017 2:08:31 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: NautiNurse

https://twitter.com/MichaelRLowry/status/906693759894769664

Tampa Bay area. Adjusted official forecast line vs long term track.


641 posted on 09/09/2017 6:59:52 PM PDT by ameribbean expat (Veritas Vincit)
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To: dirtboy

Yeah, from watching radar, it looks like the outer eyewall is nearly complete and is choking off the inner eyewall, so there’ll be a bit of a jump. Trend is right towards Key West.

I’m actually trying to figure out where their shelter plans would be to stay in Key West when the hurricane and surge arrives; I just can’t imagine trying to cross the causeway, well, even at this moment, much less a few hours from now.


642 posted on 09/09/2017 7:00:35 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

I don’t think there are really any variables that the meteorologists haven’t discovered.

However, they are just that - variables.

The whole system is in a constant state of change and flux and they are trying to forecast future events using only current data.

And as the variables change, often unexpectedly, then the whole situation can shift with no warning. It’s not possible to forecast all the things that *MIGHT* happen, or not.

They do the best they can with the information they have and the equipment they have.

The problem is less their uncertainty and more the unrealistic expectations people have of what weather forecasting is capable of.


643 posted on 09/09/2017 7:01:36 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: SaxxonWoods
Alleged to have happened in Key West this evening: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhbPLSg7rck

Shot matches the frame on the live feed, looks like the right time of day, and been seeing idiots doing that exact same shot all day long. Seems real to me.

644 posted on 09/09/2017 7:02:11 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: lurk

There’s a thread about some really mean Tweets against Trump’s Florida supporters...so hateful!


645 posted on 09/09/2017 7:02:15 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: SaxxonWoods

I watched that one happen. There was a couple sitting on the low wall a little later knocked off by a wave as well.


646 posted on 09/09/2017 7:03:21 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: Miss Didi

10pm has it still going 295 degrees WNW.

Still no real turn yet toward Florida.


647 posted on 09/09/2017 7:03:25 PM PDT by Dave346
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To: mrsmith

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/products/tc_realtime/storm.asp?storm_identifier=AL112017

I think I mis-read their table and they’re actually calling for a slight EAST of North track!
Have a different notation than usual.


648 posted on 09/09/2017 7:03:26 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Dave346

Hurricane Irma Tropical Cyclone Update
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL112017
1000 PM EDT Sat Sep 09 2017

...1000 PM EDT POSITION UPDATE...
...WIND GUSTS NEAR HURRICANE FORCE OCCURRING IN THE FLORIDA KEYS...

A National Ocean Service station in Vaca Key recently reported
sustained winds of 49 mph (80 km/h) with a gust to 62 mph
(100 km/h). Marathon recently reported sustained winds of 49 mph
(80 km/h) with a gust to 66 mph (106 km/h).

SUMMARY OF 1000 PM EDT...0200 UTC...INFORMATION


LOCATION...23.5N 81.0W
ABOUT 95 MI...155 KM SE OF KEY WEST FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...120 MPH...195 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 300 DEGREES AT 7 MPH...11 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...933 MB...27.55 INCHES


649 posted on 09/09/2017 7:03:57 PM PDT by Dave346
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To: Dave346

The Fox weather guy just said that the turn would happen during the night.


650 posted on 09/09/2017 7:04:29 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Dave346

Meant to say at 10pm it is 300 degrees WNW.


651 posted on 09/09/2017 7:05:11 PM PDT by Dave346
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To: dirtboy
I HAD TO SKIP A LOT OF POSTS.iF YOU ARE IN NEED OF PRAYERS fREEPMAIL ME. crankyweatherguy‏ @crankywxguy 7m 7 minutes ago More Beware short range extrapolation & wobbles. Long duration only. Gradual turn will accelerate with time next 3-4hrs. Still, steady.

Beware short range extrapolation & wobbles. Long duration only. Gradual turn will accelerate with time next 3-4hrs. Still, steady. pic.twitter.com/ZH1kR6I71H— crankyweatherguy (@crankywxguy) September 10, 2017


652 posted on 09/09/2017 7:05:33 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: miele man

Whoa! That’s from 5 days ago.

Got it off the first Irma thread.
Goes to show that FR is the place for good info, fast.


653 posted on 09/09/2017 7:06:19 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: metmom

“And as the variables change, often unexpectedly, then the whole situation can shift with no warning. It’s not possible to forecast all the things that *MIGHT* happen, or not.”
.........

Agreed...and, better said, the things that cause the variables to change...perhaps, “subvariables” or variables within the variables, they cannot possibly see or predict...chaos or whatever you wish to call it is incalculable. Kind of like we’ll never discover the smallest particle components of a cell or an atom...not possible.


654 posted on 09/09/2017 7:06:49 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (We must never shut up. Covfefe: A great dish served piping hot!)
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To: Mears

Those don’t bother me. I like the high roads.

Bridges across open water freak me out. Driving to OBX I just about freaked. My bride hates the mountain passes, so it evens out


655 posted on 09/09/2017 7:06:58 PM PDT by redgolum
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To: dirtboy
It’s called a peneplain. The Rockies were eroded and filled, and then uplifted again, to where the old flat erosional surface is at 12,000 feet.

Thanks for the info...I was truly amazed when I first saw that...

656 posted on 09/09/2017 7:07:36 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Miss Didi

There’s a thread about some really mean Tweets against Trump’s Florida supporters...so hateful!


The lefties and their Gullibles the libs are so vehemently against any cruelty or violence toward the groups they love. But they’d like to see Trump supporters dead and hanging in trees, being incinerated in camps, or strung up in barbed wire along roadsides. You know, because they are super tolerant.


657 posted on 09/09/2017 7:07:38 PM PDT by Yaelle (We have a Crisis of Information in this country. Our enemies hold the megaphone.)
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To: mrsmith

Crankyweatherguy with a ruh roh...

https://twitter.com/crankywxguy/status/906698427823742977


658 posted on 09/09/2017 7:08:34 PM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: Dave346; dirtboy
10pm has it still going 295 degrees WNW. Still no real turn yet toward Florida.


AND THANK YOU! As I was saying watching radar and satellite loops can be deceiving as to a real direction change due to wobbles.
659 posted on 09/09/2017 7:08:44 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Dave346

Winds back down to 120 mph from 125 earlier.


660 posted on 09/09/2017 7:10:20 PM PDT by snarkytart
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