Posted on 07/29/2017 8:22:47 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
Asking which tool government should use to fix “health care” is like asking which hammer we should use to fix a headache. Whether you hit yourself in the head with a tack hammer, a claw hammer, a framing hammer, or a jackhammer, it’s not going to make things better.
The same is true for expanding FedGov’s role in our medical care. More big government is not the answer for “solving health care” - freedom is the answer. Repeal Obamacare, with as small a replacement as can be passed. Reform tort laws. Reduce unnecessary regulations and red tape, and take back our world from the elitists who want to micromanage our lives.
Do we have a auto system? A housing system? Free markets are not government controlled “systems”. Lethargic bloated systems that suck the vitality out of people and nations.
“That said, you have made some good points. I would rephrase my original statement to say that “health care” is primarily a product, rather than a right, etc., etc. “
Can we say it’s a service?
Prescription drugs would be products.
McCain: “...that has led to Obamacare’s collapse, including in my home state of Arizona where premiums are skyrocketing and health care providers are fleeing the marketplace. “
But he’s content to continue enjoying the perks of his cadillac plan that he availed himself of just this week, while Arizonans, by his own acknowledgement, continue to suffer. What a hero.
Blah, blah, blah.
And if the following alleged response of Sen. McCain to the failed Obamacare repeal is true then McCain is truly letting us citizens down.
Jack Posobiec: McCain heard laughing, "Let's see Donald make America great now"
As misguided, post-17th Amendment ratification, democratic operative McCain wraps himself in the flag with respect to insisting that Congress must properly implement healthcare, note that his list of legislative protocols wrongly overlooks the most constitutionally important “correct way of legislating” federal healthcare.
More specifically, regardless what lawless Obama and his state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices wanted everybody to think about Obamacare, McCain is likewise wrongly ignoring that the sovereign states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for INTRAstate healthcare purposes, Obamacare based on stolen state powers and likewise stolen state revenues, revenues stolen by means of unconstitutional federal taxes.
Given the remote possibility that some FReepers and lurkers are not already aware of this, the Roberts Supreme Court is not the first time that the Supreme Court had addressed the constitutionally of a so-called national federal healthcare program.
In fact, the misguided Roberts Court wrongly ignored that previous generations of state sovereignty-respecting justices had clarified that the states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for INTRAstate healthcare purposes. This is evidenced by the following excerpts from Supreme Court case opinions.
Regarding the Roberts justices bluffing that the Obamacare insurance mandate is constitutional for example, consider the fourth entry in the list from Paul v. Virginia. In that case the Court had clarified that the scope of Congress’s Commerce Clause powers does not include regulating contracts, including insurance contracts, regardless if the parties negotiating the insurance contract are domiciled in different states.
"State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphasis added].” —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"Inspection laws, quarantine laws, health laws of every description [emphasis added], as well as laws for regulating the internal commerce of a state and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c., are component parts of this mass.” —Justice Barbour, New York v. Miln., 1837.
"4. The issuing of a policy of insurance is not a transaction of commerce within the meaning of the latter of the two clauses, even though the parties be domiciled in different States, but is a simple contract [emphases added] of indemnity against loss.” —Paul v. Virginia, 1869. (The corrupt feds have no Commerce Clause (1.8.3) power to regulate insurance.)
"Direct control of medical practice in the states is obviously [emphases added] beyond the power of Congress.” —Linder v. United States
"From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added]. …” —United States v. Butler, 1936.
Given his oath to protect and defend the Constitution, by effectively defending unconstitutional Obamacare, McCain is basically making himself an accomplice to probably the biggest constitutional scandal since the ratification of the Constitution imo.
Drain the swamp sewer! Drain the sewer!
Since corrupt Congress is the biggest part of the sewer (imo) that Trump wants to drain, it is actually up to patriots to drain the sewer in the 2018 elections, patriots supporting Trump by electing as many new members of Congress as they can who will support Trump.
In the meanwhile, patriots need to make sure that there are plenty of Trump-supporting candidates on the primary ballots.
Patriots need to qualify candidates by asking them why the Founding States made the Constitution’s Section 8 of Article I; to limit (cripple) the federal government’s powers.
Patriots also need to make sure that candidates are knowledgeable of the Supreme Court's clarifications of the federal government’s limited powers listed above.
Also, unlike incumbent members of Congress who wrongly remained silent while misguided state officials abridged the constitutionally enumerated rights of citizens during the lawless Obama Administration, patriots need to make sure that candidates on the 2018 primary ballots commit to the following.
Candidates need to commit to making and enforcing 14th Amendment-related laws to prosecute misguided state officials who use state powers to abridge constitutionally enumerated protections, 1st Amendment-protected religious expression and free speech for example, such actions prohibited by Section 1 of the 14th Amendment.
”14th Amendment, Section 1: All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States [emphasis added]; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
Again, drain the sewer! Drain the sewer!
Exactly. The only “systems”/health care the Gov should pay for or part of are Medicare and NO Medicaid, VA, a portion of fed employees health care, VA, active duty military, Reserves and the NG only when on AD. Why are we paying for these damn illegals? Try 70 million plus on Medicaid/Medicare.
We need to get government out of it. Scott Adams has turned into just another socialist freak that doesn’t understand free market societies do far better than any socialist State.
Maybe the moron would like government intruding on his cartoons? Maybe regulate it? I mean, we can’t have talented people monopolizing the cartoon industry. We need to let untalented hacks take their fair share of the profits, too!
I think my cognitive dissonance is that while I love Mr. Trump dearly and applaud everything he’s done to date, I’m not sure he’s as opposed to a single payer system as I might be because of his confidence that he can build it bigger, better, the best, top single payer system in the world.
Health care is most definitely a system. It’s a complex, interconnected set of components, working together for (ostensibly) a common purpose. Socialistic or free-market — it doesn’t matter — any health care system is, indeed, a system. (Oh, and btw, it uses and delivers services, as well as products.)
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