Posted on 07/23/2017 8:34:46 AM PDT by digger48
He shouldn't have been. Watch the video. Basically he shot the guy because he "waved his hand in a circle" according to the affirmative action Mexican cop who should never have worn a badge.
And if you say I'm being judgemental about Mpls cops, ask Nadine Damond...
“and officers can take possession of guns, for safety reasons, until the stop is completed.”
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Screw that!
Maine is also a Constitutional Carry state. A guy I know who owns his own heating and plumbing business was pulled over by a cop on a busy road.
The first thing the cop said to him was, “Do you have a gun?” But the police officer did not take it from him.
Under Maine’s Constitutional Carry law, which took effect two years ago, a citizen, when they have an encounter with police, is supposed to inform the officer that he (or she), the citizen, is carrying a firearm.
So far, no problems that I’ve heard of at all.
For safety reasons, looks like it should be the other way around:
And officers motorists can take possession of guns, for safety reasons, until the stop is completed. The firearms would be returned if no crime has been committed.
I’m from a conservative area of CA and have a ccw permit, which is hard to get in much of CA. The permits are good state-wide but are usually issued by a sheriff or police comish.
About 20 years ago I was in the San Fran bay area and encountered 2 cops and as required in CA, I notified them I was armed and had a permit. Their response was to throw me on the ground, wrestle my gun from, handcuff me, put me in their cruiser.
This all lasted about an hour while they and their dispatch tried to find a reason to arrest me. They were real angry when they couldn’t.
So, I feel that cops need to be taught how to handle armed citizens, not the other way around.
It’s wrong for police to learn from license plate data that you have a pistol permit. After all you’ve already been vetted as a worthy citizen.
The scrubbed video or the original?
A few months ago I was pulled over by an Arizona DPS officer. He asked me, “Do you have any guns or weapons in the car?”
My reply: “I am lawfully armed.”
His response was laughter and “that’s the best answer I ever heard,” and he proceeded to let me off with a warning.
Maybe they should make cops watch reruns of Adam-12.
-PJ
It's wrong for police or anyone else to learn ANYTHING from license plate data. The time is here to end the public display of a unique license plate that can be scanned and photographed without consent of the lawful carrier.
What we should have instead of a license plate is a sticker or generic identifier on the vehicle indicating the vehicle is legally registered. ONLY upon probable cause should the vehicle driver/owner be compelled to show the unique vehicle registration information to a police officer.
My word that was part of my CCW training over 2 decades ago. Course Top Brass in Millington, TN is run by 2 retired LEO.
Being a resident of Az I can tell you that there is already a standing difference of “respect” for citizens when they are pulled over. For officers in Az the question of “if” a driver is armed or not isn’t there like in other states were carry is not legal.
In Az it is assumed EVERY driver is legally armed as a citizen and the courtesy and respect factor with most officers during approach and interaction is a hundred fold. You are automatically considered “Equal” and the high authoritarian complex is not as prevalent.
Love it...
“If you are legally allowed to possess a gun, you may carry it openly in your vehicle. In addition, you may carry a concealed weapon in your vehicle as long as you disclose its presence to any law enforcement officer who detains you based on reasonable suspicion of an offense and asks you whether you are carrying a concealed weapon. (Arizona Statutes § 13-3102(A).) You do not need to disclose the existence of the weapon if it is contained in a visible case, holster, scabbard, pack, or luggage; or if it is in a storage compartment, map pocket, trunk, or glove compartment. (Arizona Statutes § 13-3102(B).)
No property owner may prohibit you from legally carrying a firearm in your locked vehicle, or in a locked compartment on a motorcycle, as long as the firearm is not visible from outside. (Arizona Statutes § 12-781(A).) The laws pertaining to carrying a firearm in a vehicle on school grounds are similar, except that the firearm must also be unloaded. (Arizona Statutes § 12-3102(I).)”.
I always sit mine on the dash in open sight or inform them “out of courtesy” that it is in the glove box. Some may secure it, some do not... It is the Officer’s discretion with this.
I have a friend who is a Private Investigator who was staking out a person in Detroit last year.
He was in an old beater van in a typical run down neighborhood when 4 cops in a Charger pulled up alongside and asked what he was doing there and if he had a gun.
Although armed with his M&P, he told them “no”, not wanting a hassle.
All four, in unison screamed at him “WHY THE HELL NOT??? DON’T YOU KNOW YOU’RE IN DETROIT??”
“and officers can take possession of guns, for safety reasons, until the stop is completed.”
Proper safety requires unloading the firearm first. This simply invites accidents with multiple people in a somewhat tense situation, handling a loaded firearm.
I hope you sued those two jackboots in the SF Bay area.
The NRA or similar organization should have given you a free legal team.
If it’s in a holster they usually don’t unload it, They just pull it out and sit it on the top of the car until they are done. Most now approach on the passenger side so that it is easier for them to do this safely for both parties.
The same is true in NC. If you are carrying and confronted by a cop, you MUST advise that you have a CCW.
Beat it pal.
You want to play your flame war stalking games do it to someone else.
LOL! I can actually believe that!
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