Posted on 06/24/2017 6:13:17 AM PDT by Kaslin
Post 60, among others
What possible agenda could they have in wanting Round-Up destroyed, other than to bankrupt a successful company and to cause food shortages? Why is it that virtually every Leftist cause leads directly to widespread death and economic decay?
I’m not all that familiar with European harvest conditions, or what herbicides can or cannot be used there, but in the US, glyphosate would make a really lousy desiccant and I’ve never known it to be used in that way.
If this battle gets real, I will start hoarding glyphosate just like I did incandescent bulbs. Sometimes there is just No Substitute.
That bit about dioxin in Agent Orange perplexed scientists for years, because when properly made in a cold process, there is no dioxin in Agent Orange. However, when it is made in a hot process, there is plenty of dioxin.
And different manufacturers used different processes.
The key to the puzzle was when some scientists actually went to Vietnam to get samples out of old drums. But that made them suspect that the samples were contaminated when clean Agent Orange was mixed up in drums that had contained other chemicals.
However, they weren’t able to find any contaminant chemicals that contained dioxin. The Agent Orange they found either had dioxin or didn’t. So they finally investigated the manufacturing process.
I killed a 7-foot pine tree with roundup on my property line. It took a while, but I only needed 1 application and in 2 days it lost half it’s needles.
Glyphosate is designed to attack a specific plant hormone, so if you are a plant too bad, otherwise just don’t drink it - wash it off immediately if comes in contact with the skin - like any concentrate it can cause mild burns. Properly mixed in the correct proportions per the product label, this is not a problem.
Most effective is the liquid Round Up Pro Max - 7/8ths oz to gal. Is expensive and not available for home use (60% coverage - 100% dead) Also has surfactant in it - sticks to slick plants like cattails and Solomon Seal. Round Up Quik Pro is a powder and it sucks - takes forever to kill. Most of the home Glyphosate products are weak compared to the commercial varieties. If not dead in a week something is not right with the mixture.
“When it is sprayed on food crops, people are consuming poison with their food. It’s not rocket science. “
Who is going to put roundup on a food crop? You can’t harvest/sell/eat dead veggies and fruit. It also breaks down in days once applied, so it doesn’t stay in the soil.
——What is Roundup/glyphosate? Poison. It kills plants. That’s what it is designed to do. When it is sprayed on food crops, people are consuming poison with their food-——
How can I say this nicely.
That’s probably one of the most ignorant things I’ve read in a while.
Round up isn’t sprayed on food crops. It would just kill it in a few days. You spray it on the leafy part of the plant material you want to kill, the active ingredient disrupts the photosynthesis process and the plant starves to death. Spray it on the ground nothing happens, it has to be absorbed in the leaf for it to work.
If you get it on the ground, it breaks down quickly...
That being said it’s considered a haz mat material when it comes into contact with non plant creature. US and our furry friends ...so in its liquid form it’s bad for you to contact it.
It’s designed to kill anything green, not us.
It’s use comes with very clear instructions....
I know I used to sell it.
You have got to be kidding. Are these loons for real?
Well, after a quick search, I don't think I can accept your claim of no harm.
Side Effects
An antifungal with some fearsome potential side effects.Diflucan Birth Defects Lawsuits
The antifungal drug fluconazole—sold under the brand names Diflucan and Trican—has been identified as a potential cause of disfiguring birth defects.
What Is Diflucan? When Is It Prescribed?
Diflucan is the brand name for the drug fluconazole. Made and sold by American pharmaceutical giant Pfizer, this prescription medication is used to treat infections caused by the fungal genus Candida, a type of yeast. Specific infections include: vaginal yeast infections; oropharyngeal and esophageal yeast infections; and cryptococcal meningitis. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) first approved Diflucan in 1990, and Pfizer sells it in 50 mg to 200 mg oral tablets and as an oral suspension dosed at 50 mg/5 mL to 200 mg /5 mL.
Fluconazole inhibits an enzyme called “fungal cytochrome P450 enzyme lanosterol 14-alpha-demethylase.” This enzyme converts lanosterol into ergosterol. Ergosterol serves fungi as a component of their cell membranes. Without it, they cannot function. Moreover, animals and plants do not need lanosterol, and instead they use cholesterol in their cell membranes. This makes Diflucan especially effective against fungi.
Diflucan Side Effects Include Birth Defects
In August 2011, the FDA issued a Diflucan warning in the form of a Drug Safety Communication. The agency had reviewed several studies and found that long-term use of high doses of Diflucan during the first three months of pregnancy can cause the following birth defects:
- cranial defects (short, broad heads, also called brachycephaly)
- abnormal facial features
- abnormal skull developments
- oral clefts (cleft lip or palate)
- bowed thigh bones
- unusually thin ribs and long bones
- muscle weakness
- joint deformities
- congenital heart disease
The FDA determined that Diflucan doses between 400-800 mg per day caused the above defects. It noted, however, that the normal low dose of 150 mg per day meant to treat vaginal yeast infections did not appear to contribute to a higher incidence of birth defects. As a result of these studies, the FDA changed Diflucan’s pregnancy category from C to D for all uses other than vaginal yeast infections. Pregnancy category D is the second most severe category (above category X), and it means that scientific evidence proves that the drug can cause birth defects in pregnant women but that the benefits of the drug still outweigh its risks. The FDA admits it still does not know full risks Diflucan places on pregnant women. The FDA-mandated Diflucan drug label contains a pregnancy entry in its “Warnings and Precautions” section listing the possibility of these defects. http://www.rotlaw.com/diflucan/
Correct me if I am wrong, but the run off issue is primarily about phosphate in the fertilizer.
Not Round Up.
Pinellas County in Florida bans fertilizer that contains phosphate and Nitrogen June 1 though Sept 30.
My wife tried that concoction and it did not work. This year has been a real weed fest.
Your argument appears to be that you’ve never seen it so it doesn’t happen. Small sample size.
Also, there are plenty of side-effects listed. Those are also “harm.”
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/862447
Thanks for the info!
Where can I get RoundUp poison ivy formula?
Home depot used to have it (orange label, not blue), but don’t carry it anymore.
I don’t have a lot of land; the Dallas grass is near the house.
OK, I won’t pour a bunch of it on there.
A shot glass worth on -each- clump (20 clumps total, each about 5” in diameter.. ) like lapsus calami said?
Would that still mess up groundwater?
Nah. Just go easy. Throw down a handful of salt at the base
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