California Wants to Make Health Care a ‘Right’

American Spectator ^ | May 25, 2017 | Steven Greenhut

[trebb]

California citizens are prolly in favor of this until they see how much it really costs.

Yep - and when the ones who understand what it means decide to leave, it will be interesting to see how long it lasts...

[Repeal 16-17]

I'll see your 10th Amendment and raise you the 13th Amendment. If health care is a right, then doctors will be forced to provide medical care. That's involuntary servitude, otherwise such a right would be unenforceable.

I strongly believe in State sovereignty, but individual rights are more important. So California's sovereignty must yield to doctors' right not to be made slaves to the State.

[henkster]

“Collective rights” such as rights to health care, housing, work, food, etc..., are incompatible with individual rights such as freedom of speech, religion, and right to property. As proof, these “rights” were first found in the Soviet constitution.

When these rights come into conflict with each other, as they must, government sets itself up as the arbiter of those competing rights. When it does that, rights are no longer rights but licenses, like a fishing license, to be granted and revoked as the government sees fit.

[oldasrocks]

Well good news and bad news- they get free healthcare now but they can only afford a pint of castor oil for each person. Hope this cures what ails you.

[henkster]

Well that’s the other half of it; nothing is available in unlimited quantities. If distributed by the government instead of the market, the decisions of who gets what are poltical, not economic. The result is rationing, and rationing is the most significant form of government control there is.

People who have things rationed to them are not free.

[Amendment10]

"If health care is a right, then doctors will be forced to provide medical care. That's involuntary servitude, otherwise such a right would be unenforceable."

Since the states have never amended the Constitution to expressly protect healthcare as a right, If patriots get MDs up to speed on their 14th Amendment protections, with respect to 13A in this case, then I don’t see a major problem with the states getting away with using constitutionally unprotected healthcare “right” to to trump constitutonally enumerated rights.

”14th Amendment, Section 1: All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States [emphasis added]; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

Insights welcome.

[NormsRevenge]

Heck, even Death Row inmates get healthcare here, no one is turned away, geeesh.

[Robert357]

I want to see California commit economic suicide.

[BruceS]

Which years did Demoncrats oppose slavery?

[Pollster1]

Since voting against the Civil Rights Acts in the 1960s, the democrats have pretended to be in favor of black people. They still want slavery, and that has never changed, but they learned to hide the truth behind media lies.

[mjp]

the bill would make health care in California a “right.”

that enslaves doctors

[Repeal 16-17]

The 14th Amendment is not at issue. We're talking about the 13th Amendment, Section 1 of which says:

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Have California's doctors been convicted of a crime? If not, then they may not be subjected to "slavery or involuntary servitude".

[ronnie raygun]

Make it a right when you leave the union

[exnavy]

Yeah, i know.