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Two years after shootout, Twin Peaks resolutions remain elusive
Waco Tribune-Herald ^ | May 16, 2017 | TOMMY WITHERSPOON

Posted on 05/22/2017 8:32:40 AM PDT by Prolixus

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8th Amendment rights were ignored two years ago.

6th Amendment rights have been ignored ever since.

For followers of Waco's "Baghdad Bob" Sgt. Pat Swanton, this is his obligatory quote from the article: “As events unfolded on 5-17-2015 and several days/weeks following, we relayed to our public the most accurate and available account of the occurrences at Twin Peaks,” Swanton wrote. “Our investigators, along with other local, state and federal officials, have worked tirelessly to prepare the cases for criminal proceedings. At this point, there is nothing additional we can release.”

1 posted on 05/22/2017 8:32:40 AM PDT by Prolixus
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To: Prolixus

“...there is nothing additional we can release.” = Null Set....


2 posted on 05/22/2017 8:35:49 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Prolixus

“...there is nothing additional we can release.” = Null Set....


3 posted on 05/22/2017 8:36:01 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Prolixus

A fair sized chunk of the responsibility can be laid at the feet of Hollyweird and the hit show “Sons of Anarchy”.


4 posted on 05/22/2017 8:43:41 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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“A fair sized chunk of the responsibility can be laid at the feet of Hollyweird and the hit show “Sons of Anarchy”.”

I don’t think that watching that show influenced the Bandidos and Cossacks into a gang war.


5 posted on 05/22/2017 8:52:07 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Prolixus
When this first happen, I posted that there was something strange about the situation. It just becames more confusing as time goes on. What are the legal powers to be in Waco and Texas covering up? There were some on Free Republic which strongly disagreed with my posting......... I told them we shall see. Two years later we are still waiting, damn the Speedy Trial Clause of the Sixth Amendment, damn discovery.

One day the truth will come out and the citizens of Waco will have to pay the bill.

6 posted on 05/22/2017 8:58:55 AM PDT by Lockbox
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“When this first happen, I posted that there was something strange about the situation.”

What is strange about two motorcycle gangs having a gang war?


7 posted on 05/22/2017 9:03:12 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Prolixus
Yes.

As predicted, Constitutional rights were casually trashed. They're working on trying to force as many as possible into forfeiting 5th Amendment rights, too. It's the new normal?

From the article;

Tittle said two years is a long time for innocent people to have criminal charges hanging over their heads. Jobs have been lost, reputations have been smeared, and families have been placed under undue hardships, he said.

“Of all the shocking things associated with this fiasco, I’d have to say that the general lack of concern and outrage from the media and the public is the most disappointing thing of all,” Tittle said. “These are not just technicalities we’re talking about. These are real people’s lives, and no one seems to give a damn. ..."

Trial for two Bandidos (if still on, according to schedule) slated to begin today, at 1 PM, in Fort Worth, for the incident which occurred Dec. 12, 2014 at Gator's Jam Inn II on Race Street. 401 Belknap Street, 396th District Court, on the sixth floor.

I have no idea if law enforcement got the right guys -- or not (or if they did get the "right" guys -- if they got all of them). All I do know is what I've read in the papers, and that one man, Geoffrey Brady, is dead. I've seen the grave.

Though I never knew the man, from what I've been able to gather, Brady was not a bad guy, was not a criminal. He was just a member of a small-time, local MC that's been around since at least the 1970's, and lacks reputation for criminality (as far as I know).

A Ghost Rider, from Arlington, Texas, presently resting (I do hope, in peace) a few dozen paces East of one of the ponds at Moore Memorial Gardens, in Arlington.

8 posted on 05/22/2017 9:12:24 AM PDT by BlueDragon
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<>I"I don’t think that watching that show influenced the Bandidos and Cossacks into a gang war."

No but it has influenced the civilians and probably edged the police into shooting anybody they could get into their sights.

9 posted on 05/22/2017 9:30:04 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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” He was just a member of a small-time, local MC that’s been around since at least the 1970’s, and lacks reputation for criminality (as far as I know). “

The Ghostriders were involved in a long-time ‘dispute’ with the Bandidos. One had previously been charged in the death of a Bandido.


10 posted on 05/22/2017 9:45:18 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Prolixus; ExTexasRedhead

For openers, Texas Tick Turd Judge Ralph Strother should be impeached and removed from the bench. It never ceases to amaze me that Texas, a state that loudly crows about just how “wonderful” it’s “Just Us System” is, can allow this piece of crap to hold sway over these “proceedings.”
What this has devolved into, is a process to try, against all odds, to get the Whacko Gubbemint “officials” off the hook for the murders their police department committed at Twin Peaks. I am not a fan of criminal bikers, but I have yet to see any substantive evidence that ANY of those who have been charged are liable for the killings that happened. I would be surprised if ALL of them are killers, and I only hope that at the end of the day Whacko and McLennan County are made insolvent by the succeeding lawsuits brought by the defendants. I may not like bikers, but I do like the Constitution.


11 posted on 05/22/2017 9:50:42 AM PDT by vette6387
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” local MC that’s been around since at least the 1970’s, and lacks reputation for criminality (as far as I know). “


Harms had a loaded gun with him and several bullets in his pockets. Harms said he was assisting the Ghostrider club president, who is blind, towards the bar when they were contacted by two others.

The two people demanded Harms and the others “give up their colors or they will ‘shoot them off,’” court documents state.

Harms said he saw one of the men reach behind his back and thought he was getting a gun.
Harms fired his gun.

One man was struck by two bullet fragments in his right arm and shoulder area. He was taken to Tacoma General Hospital for treatment.

Harms, a convicted felon, was charged Wednesday with first-degree assault and second-degree possession of a firearm. He was ordered held in Pierce County Jail in lieu of $250,000 bail.

http://blog.thenewstribune.com/crime/2012/06/07/charges-filed-against-man-in-shooting-at-spanaway-bar/


12 posted on 05/22/2017 9:53:58 AM PDT by TexasGator
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Cossack brandishing gun BEFORE melee started ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxs4GzPC9Hs


13 posted on 05/22/2017 9:59:52 AM PDT by TexasGator
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I’m sorry TG, you have a myopic view of what happened, so I am not at all interested in what you have to say about Whacko. You hate bikers and can’t seem to comprehend the part of the Constitution where is says it’s protections apply to everyone, and that you are assumed to be innocent until proven otherwise. There is no “Constitutional exemption” for bikers who “deserve to be killed!” And that Whacko is also violating the Constitutional mandate for speedy trials is something that should be of concern to you just in case you get yourself accused of some crime or another. You need to get a copy of The Constitution and study it!


14 posted on 05/22/2017 10:15:36 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: BlueDragon

“local MC that’s been around since at least the 1970’s, and lacks reputation for criminality (as far as I know). “

Bandido/Ghostrider violence goes back at least to 1977.

http://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/never-love-a-bandido-2/


15 posted on 05/22/2017 10:21:32 AM PDT by TexasGator
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“I’m sorry TG, you have a myopic view of what happened, so I am not at all interested in what you have to say about Whacko.”

First-hand testimony from a guy at ground zero does not interest you? LOL!


16 posted on 05/22/2017 10:22:30 AM PDT by TexasGator
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“You hate bikers “

Interesting that you throw that out since I have never said that and in fact am a biker.

OTOH it was YOU that stated you didn’t like bikers!


17 posted on 05/22/2017 10:24:35 AM PDT by TexasGator
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“and that you are assumed to be innocent until proven otherwise.”

LOL! From the guy that says the police murdered the gangsters at Twin Peaks!


18 posted on 05/22/2017 10:26:16 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Ever the most obtuse and densest element around. Someone would have better luck talking to an ingot of lead than TG if wanting any kind of intelligent response.


19 posted on 05/22/2017 10:30:14 AM PDT by Boomer (Stupid is as stupid does and no one does stupid like the left.)
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“Ever the most obtuse and densest element around. Someone would have better luck talking to an ingot of lead than TG if wanting any kind of intelligent response.”

I post a link from a first-hand testimony of a biker at ground zero and I get personally attacked. I guess this is all about NOT letting the truth get out.


20 posted on 05/22/2017 10:33:49 AM PDT by TexasGator
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