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Why The H-1B Visa Racket Should Be Abolished, Not Reformed
Townhall.com ^ | April 22, 2017 | Ilana Mercer

Posted on 04/22/2017 9:31:50 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 04/22/2017 9:31:50 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Preach it!


2 posted on 04/22/2017 9:34:20 AM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: Kaslin

Dream on.

Politicians aren’t going to abolish any such thing or change it willingly or by the vote of the steeple. They like things just the way they are:

Confused
Controlled by special interests that fund their campaigns
Their privilidged status for life
No term limits
A process mired in secrecy and contorted rules
They like cheap illegal labor because their benefactors like it
They like a monster tax code so they can favor friends and punish enemies just like their handlers tell them to do.

The situation is as hopeless today as it was in 1938 when Jimmy Stewrart made “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington” A decent man can’t survive to fight. The system is totally corrupt.


3 posted on 04/22/2017 9:35:07 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Kaslin

True of most big Government federal programs.


4 posted on 04/22/2017 9:35:22 AM PDT by Leep (Cyclops Network News (CNN). The Most Trusted Source Of Fake News.)
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To: Kaslin

For the final years of my engineering career I watched my friends being replaced by Indian engineers who did my friend’s jobs over the internet. Yes there is a visa racket bringing cheaper engineers in to take American’s jobs. But it is no longer necessary to even bring them here.

One of my designer buddy’s last job was to train his replacements via the internet to take his job. That extended him another six weeks and then he too was laid off. I asked him about the quality of the Indian engineering work and he said, “well, they do things differently but it is definitely first rate.”

From the company perspective, why have an engineer in America earing $105,000 per year when you can have one just as good earing $30,000? Also, the low buck guy can’t sue you for any one of a dozen legalisms created by our government Big Brother.


5 posted on 04/22/2017 9:39:50 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Kaslin
I agree H-1B should be abolished, because workers on temporary visas are worth more to a company than workers locally hired. O-1 is a very restricted category.

H-1B itself, with the Trump reforms, should become an immigrant visa (i.e., Green Card) instead of a temporary worker visa. H-1B workers should be able to transfer jobs or quit in a huff if they don't like the working conditions, without being kicked out of the country. Social assistance, however, should not be provided until a number of working years have elapsed - until then, only a free ticket home for the rare tech worker who falls into indigence.

H-1B's allow for anchor babies only, they don't let you bring in relatives except under the 6-month tourist visa.

6 posted on 04/22/2017 9:44:57 AM PDT by cmj328 (We live here.)
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To: Kaslin

Hehe, India used to be a British colony.

Now, it’s the US tech sector colony.

Just like the slave trade of old, there’s plenty of Indians from Wipro, Infosys, and other drovers who are more than happy to provide cheap and plentiful laborers to the new US tech plantations.


7 posted on 04/22/2017 9:45:42 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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To: Gen.Blather
From the company perspective, why have an engineer in America earing $105,000 per year when you can have one just as good earing $30,000?

They're bringing in H-1B's at $60-90K, so there's got to still be an advantage in having people here. Something more than time zone.

8 posted on 04/22/2017 9:46:40 AM PDT by cmj328 (We live here.)
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To: Kaslin

Ilana is exactly right as usual.

The cross eyed Indian Infosys guy knows it too. He thinks Indians have an entitlement to be here - damn all the British, French, German, Polish, Czech, Slovak, Austrian and especially Russian and Ukrainian comp sci people who could be H1-Bs.

No. Just Indians. Cuz they’re brown, which instantly makes them victims of the Evil Americans, and thus must be allowed to overrun the nicer parts of the U.S.

Redmond, Washington now looks like Mumbai if you judge by the people wandering the streets. Real gratitude from that SOB who used taxpayer money to get rich, right? And then put that famous “American” Satya Nadella in charge.

End H1B. Ilana is right: the people brought in are largely hacks: not only are they cheap, they are simply some other Indians buddy: the result of ethnic networking. Most are mediocre and talentless. You could hire all you need from the community colleges of America. Which is where most programmers used to come from.


9 posted on 04/22/2017 9:49:56 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Sequoyah101

The irony is that Trump isn’t beholden to anyone. The usual suspects don’t have any claim to him. He may lose sight of the people who put him in office and the promises made to them. Sessions is doing well as the new AG and Gorsuch may help end the lunacy from the SC. I hold out hope that he’ll end the abuses of the H-1B program.


10 posted on 04/22/2017 9:56:50 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Sequoyah101

“...system is totally corrupt...”

Supported by rich idiots like Cuban...


11 posted on 04/22/2017 9:57:39 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: cmj328

A friend of mine in Huntsville, Alabama told me that his company was spending between $25,000-$30,000 on the “overhead” of employees (employer portion of SS, insurance, etc). A $100,000 employee salary costs over $130,000 to employee.

I’m guessing the H-1B Visa number is far less than that.


12 posted on 04/22/2017 10:05:52 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Kaslin

Amen

All immigration is outta hand and has been a long time


13 posted on 04/22/2017 10:07:58 AM PDT by wardaddy (Multiculturalism: Everyone wants to inhabit the world of white men with no white men in it)
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To: cmj328

Family members of the H-1B worker are admitted to the United States in the H-4 category. Qualifying family members include only the spouse and unmarried children under 21 years old. As of may 2015, they too can work.

As long as you hold a valid H1B, then you’re eligible to adjust your status to green card holder.

H1bs can change jobs. The “h1 transfer” is a new petition without restriction of the h1b cap.


14 posted on 04/22/2017 10:11:33 AM PDT by glenduh
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To: Kaslin

Bingo.


15 posted on 04/22/2017 10:15:51 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kaslin
Although I personally, have been displaced by H-1Bs (THREE of them on my last job!) I disagree.

We legitimately do need some of these people.

The solution is not to eliminate the H-1B, but to recognize that when a company absolutely needs a premium employee, they must pay a premium price for that crucial talent. The system Japan uses is such an imported crucial employee gets 25% more than their Japanese coworkers.

Everyone recognizes that this employee is not displacing a Japanese employee, and is providing the company with skill they can aspire to learn.

By contrast American employees recognize that the H-1B "prevailing wage" is set by cheap foreign labor, and further resent being required to train their substandard replacements.

While the O-1 program is a viable option for the rare world class contributors (I work with one), the H-1B program can be fixed by fair wages for the still needed and more abundant well above-average talent.

16 posted on 04/22/2017 10:16:20 AM PDT by null and void (Drain the swamp! Get rid of the mosque-itoes!)
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To: Bryan24

Gee really smart Americans who’ve spent 50K+ on an education want to make decedent money. How f-ing odd.


17 posted on 04/22/2017 10:19:36 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: glenduh
H1bs can change jobs. The “h1 transfer” is a new petition without restriction of the h1b cap.

Yeah. In theory.

In practice one of my coworkers was deported within 24 hours of the layoff, he was sent back to the ayatollah's Iran.

No one has heard anything from him since.

18 posted on 04/22/2017 10:21:28 AM PDT by null and void (Drain the swamp! Get rid of the mosque-itoes!)
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Truly a sore subject in not just the IT industry, but in engineering. Take Boeing in Seattle as an example, as well as the Carolinas and Florida. Experienced high quality US engineers are being replaced with less qualified H1B applicants from India, and Europe. US Engineers are forced to train their replacements or face immediate discharge. They underbid our rates, regardless of the cost of living. Many times H1B Engineers will live 4 or more to an apartment. But that is not the worst part, they do not integrate, they refuse to speak english except to supervisors, are not team players, and cannot or will not take orders from team leaders unless forced by supervisors. They make many mistakes, refuse to be corrected, and eventually their work has to be redone, under the auspices of saving money, they throw unskilled workers at a problem only to have skilled workers redo their work. As in all situations, there are exceptions. I have worked with fine foreign workers, very skilled. But they are the minority. And I agree the impact on the cities is devastating. Large influx of families coming with these workers, never intend to leave, they create little Indias, little china’s, which become areas where US citizens are not welcome, and some become violent. Muslims are also doing the same thing,and they tend to be very violent. They are not the peace loving people they portend to be on the Television screen. You are not welcome or tolerated in their world outside the TV and the work area. They are nasty and mean. The blacks and mexicans fight each other. The Muslims fight with both of them, and will kill and disappear and let it be thought of as a black on black crime which does not get investigate like a white on black crime. Police are slow to respond in dangerous areas. Its a problem which is exaserbated by the H1B visa program. Which, should have been used sparingly for Hi-Tech personnel in highly specialized fields where there were no US qualified personnel, and those possibilities were exhausted before even considering an H1B applicant, and no family would be allowed to enter the US during the assignment period. Now we have record unemployment for skilled US Engineers, no longer reported as unemployed is the Underemployed. Those who no longer can collect unemployment benefits, but still cannot find work. Or the 50 and over skilled employees being supplemented by H1B younger workers (unskilled). The truly unemployed is far larger that the unemployment numbers, and this is one of the many factors. The Brain Drain of skilled US workers is on the march to reduce the US lead on Technologically skilled workers, leading to state of the art design and manufacturing in the United States IMO.


19 posted on 04/22/2017 10:24:29 AM PDT by Rustybucket
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To: Bryan24

It is. However, at no time during any of these anti-American worker arguments will you hear the word “quality” mentioned, much like “Das Kaiptal”.


20 posted on 04/22/2017 10:32:55 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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