Posted on 04/06/2017 10:39:31 AM PDT by pgkdan
“There’s no precedent for a successful secession but there is for breaking up a state.”
You mean like West Virginia? And yet even that was unconstitutional. The Constitution requires this split off move to come from a state’s legislature, not Congress.
There is nothing in this for the dems, nationally or state.
They already have a permanent dem majority and can now legislate anything they want.
Oh yeah, you can bet that us conservatives would love to split off.
I’m a proponent of the state of Jefferson. That would be an excellent start. I almost wish I still lived in that zoo so I could work for the new state’s creation.
No chance they split other than into 2 states:
The Socialist State of Los Angeles
The Socialist State of San Fransico
Anything else risks losing electoral votes (and congress seats). Ds in the rest of the country would never let it happen. Even Ds in California want to keep their control of the rest of the state and would hate the idea of part of their state gaining sovereignty and not having to follow environmental and immigration laws from Sacramento.
Are you kidding they would go from 2 senate seats to up to 12.
I am sure that is their real goal.
I think this Calexit movement may be a Chinese Communist plot. I also think that it would be in the Chinese Communist Govt’s interest if The US and Russia went to war. The Chinese have been buying influence in Hollywood and Washington for some time and now we are seeing the results of this investment. It would be a huge blow to the US if California succeeded from the Union. I would be ok with California breaking up into smaller states. That really needs to happened in NY. Upstate NY (all the counties north of Westchester) desperately needs to be separated from NYC and Long Island.
In either scenario, foreign governments are engineering calexit.
And all of those “no power plants in my backyard” actors and directors will have to build those evil power plants in their backyards. Otherwise, their movie cameras and cappuccino makers will stop working when the power is switched off.
I agree the organizers of this movement need to be investigated and if are found to be colluding with a foreign govt. need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent. But no, back to the Russia hacked the election fiction.
Colorado sure as hell doesn’t provide NorCal with one
drop of water and we sure as hell don’t need any from
you, either.
There was also the split of Maine from Massachusetts. Splits of states after they became states is rare, but not unknown, and proposed much more often that actually done.
https://mavensnotebook.com/the-notebook-file-cabinet/californias-water-systems/
I don’t believe that they are proposing a north/south split. The map I saw showed all of the coastal counties from Los Angeles county to the Oregon border being one state. The rest of the inland counties and San Diego county would be the second state. In essence California and West California or California and East California.
Personally I prefer California and Soon-to-be-broke.
Oops. No water for the Hover Dam too so that means no electricity for LA and surrounding cities. The Colorado River powers the Hover Dam. :)
Only kidding and no offense... only as serious as the CALEXIT movement.
Wars (states and countries) have started and been fought over water rights. Every once in a while I hear about it from the western slop farmers and folks (of Colorado). It is a serious issue and shouldn’t be joked about. My apologies.
“There was also the split of Maine from Massachusetts.”
Did the Mass legislature approve it? The VA legislature didn’t approve WV breaking off, Congress did.
Article IV
Section 3
“...no new states shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned...”
I think this Calexit movement may be a Chinese Communist plot. I also think that it would be in the Chinese Communist Govt’s interest if The US and Russia went to war. The Chinese have been buying influence in Hollywood and Washington for some time and now we are seeing the results of this investment. It would be a huge blow to the US if California succeeded from the Union.
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Absolutely the Chinese would benefit from Calexit. It’s a stupid idea from a security standpoint.
Even without China, why would we want a communist country on our western border cutting us off from the sea?
I don’t know how much water SoCal gets from the
Colorado. I was referring to NorCal.
Riparian rights present some complicated issues. I reside
in a county that spans from the Sierra Nevada foothills
eastward, over the Sierra Nevada mountains to the Nevada State
border. We are among the counties which provide water for
most of the state. At least one Central Valley downstream
county has rights to the water which originates here,
rights that we do not have according to my understanding.
In fact, the downstream entity could place a dam in our
county and sell off the water. Obviously, they don’t have
direct access to the land and obtaining permits and
consent is a whole different matter.
Yes. I guess my point is that CA is too linked into the rest of the nation to be able to leave and it will never happen.
To add, environmental regulations can make a state vulnerable, too and power would be an issue because the state fights new power plants. The presumption is that they can be self sufficient which is impossible at this point.
California does not want to split off but there are those
of us who want to split from California as it stands.
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