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All Waco Trials Delayed
The Aging Rebel ^ | 3/29/2017

Posted on 03/30/2017 4:38:52 PM PDT by Elderberry

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To: BlueDragon

Now, now, now, remember what the doctor said.... It’s not good for one to let little things get one upset....

PS, did you bother to read the laws in question? If you can’t understand them, I’ll try to get you a copy of “The Texas Penal Code for Dummies”

Have a GREAT weekend!


61 posted on 03/31/2017 1:23:08 PM PDT by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: MileHi

act=fact


62 posted on 03/31/2017 1:25:32 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Strac6
There goes any standing you have (you never had much in the first place) to comment about other people's rudeness.

Try reading section 15.03 (a).

Miss that gate, and it's like a downhill skier missing the first one when needing hit that one most of all --or else be disqualified.


63 posted on 03/31/2017 1:42:25 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: MileHi

Obviously you have NOT read the autopsies.


64 posted on 03/31/2017 1:44:30 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Strac6

These dudes always make claims which reveal they have no idea of the facts.


65 posted on 03/31/2017 1:47:11 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Strac6
correction. 15.02 (a) (1).

Simple presence does not equate to fulfillment of (2) (b) it should be added.

They were charged with murder. Lacking being charged with conspiracy to go there that day to commit some other crime, prosecution should have evidence that each and every one indicted went there planning on murdering others.

All along in this also; deaths arising from acts of self defense are not "murder". Not when there was no other plan to commit what would clearly be crime.

If that not be so, then every concealed carry permit holder, if knowingly arming himself against potential danger, successfully defended himself by eliminating a threat to their own life by killing another ---would be guilty of murder.

One of the most basic of all civil rights is the right to one's own life. Therefor, the right to engage in acts of self-protection cannot be abridged.

Our rights do not come from law, nor from the Constitution. According to the framers of the Constitution, as it is written in the Declaration of Independence, those rights originate from Nature's God (hence, are natural rights not arising from codification of law).


66 posted on 03/31/2017 2:17:38 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: TexasGator
Obviously you have NOT read the autopsies.

So shoot me a link. But they still aren't ballistic reports.

67 posted on 03/31/2017 2:19:27 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: MileHi

Google twin peaks autopsies


68 posted on 03/31/2017 2:21:17 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: MileHi
I don't want you waiting forever.

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/twin-peaks-biker-shooting/autopsies-released-in-twin-peaks-biker-deaths/article_4b1e45fb-3941-540c-9783-ecc9908c366a.html

69 posted on 03/31/2017 3:49:02 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

I’ve reading them. I’ll get back to this after dinner.

Thanks


70 posted on 03/31/2017 4:53:56 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: BlueDragon; TexasGator

Mr. Dragon, Sir,

I have re-read your legal opinions.... and I am incredibly embarrassed. I (and perhaps Mr. TexasGator as well, although I do not have Power of Attorney to speak for him) am ashamed that I did not see your spot-on and decisively convincing legal reasonings at first glance.

I hope you do not object, but I have forwarded a compilation of them to the Sitting Clerk at the Texas Supreme Court. As I’m sure you know from your years of legal practice, SOOTSOT has a clerk available 24/365 to receive emergency motions, requests for stays of execution, Habeas Corpus pleas, etc, and of course, for the incredibly solid legal reasoning such as you displayed.

I hope you do not mind but I took the liberty to remove the spelling, grammar, punctuation, syntax, subject-verb agreement, capitalization, tense, pronoun and citation errors in your posts, but what the heck, compared to your Nobel-level jurisprudencial breakthroughs, what are a few dozen junior high school-level English errors?

The clerk promised to receive it and have the on-call Associate Justice review it tonight. He expects to be able to send telegrams before midnight, CDT, to all involved that a stay on all prosecution has been issued IMMEDIATELY.

Likewise, he promised that Chief Justice Hecht will have your moving papers on his desk before 9:00 Monday. He says the CJ likes a blueberry muffin with his morning coffee, and he will cover the muffin with your papers so the CJ cannot avoid reading your learned work.

The clerk expects a permanent stay before noon, and an emergency bill before the State Senate and House to compensate the poor, downtrodden victims of this judicial abuse for their time, pain and the psychological abuse they have suffered at the hands of the State.

He also said, despite what will probably be the Governor’s firm desire to do so, they will not be able to buy more ammunition for the Banditos, nor high-grade meth for those who had it confiscated, but they will buy new motorcycles for all charged.

The Gov regrets he will not be able to pay for the medical bills of those shot nor the stage makeup for their upcoming TV appearances.

Sorry.

Thank you again for your unique legal perspectives. It is certainly no exaggeration that we all, especially Mr. TexasGator and myself, shall I dare say, were “amazed” by them.


71 posted on 03/31/2017 5:50:23 PM PDT by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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Reyna, Durbin, Brady and Blanco

Wacotrib 3/31/17

http://www.agingrebel.com/15174

---Whatever the feds are hiding seems to be immediately discoverable to the defense attorneys in the case. Reyna has charged everyone in the case with conspiring to participate in an affray yet, curiously, Durbin has not yet accused anyone except the Bandidos with declaring “war” on the Cossacks. Which is it? Who did it? Did Morgan English do it? Would, for example, the evidence the federal government is hiding prove Morgan English innocent? Thirteen months ago, before he started to crack like cheap paint, Reyna lied that he had no idea what Durbin, the DEA, the FBI and the Texas Department of Public Safety might be hiding. Wednesday, he declared that he thinks that Durbin is hiding exculpatory evidence. For at least 13 months, Reyna has been hiding behind what is in effect a federal firewall. He has said first that he does not know if the Department of Justice is concealing exculpatory evidence and now he has said he thinks it probably is.----

72 posted on 03/31/2017 5:58:08 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Strac6

Can you also send to AG Sessions?


73 posted on 03/31/2017 6:16:02 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

I called him. He’s busy.

Sorry.


74 posted on 03/31/2017 6:18:05 PM PDT by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: TexasGator; Elderberry
I read through these autopsy reports. Most all describe 1/4" to 3/16" entrance wounds. None showed gunshot residue, so they weren't fired at hand shaking distance. Some of the recovered projectiles were fragments. Many, in the MEs opinion were apparently medium caliber. Only one was described as apparently medium to large caliber. A couple were described as jacketed bullets consistent with .223 FMJ bullets. Many were described as downward trajectory wounds which might be consistent with shots from elevated positions.

Gator chooses to ignore the wound size in favor of the MEs opinion about the size of the recovered, deformed projectiles and hang his hat on that to exonerate law enforceent of any wrong doing. I doubt the ME is a ballistic expert, but it fits Gators bias. It may or may not be a valid opinion. As I said in the first place, these are not ballistic reports.

I have no doubt bikers shot some of those people. The question is how many. Also, of the ones not shot by AR-15 rounds, were any shot by undercovers with handguns? If so, were they shot in self defense? We, including Gator, don't know.

Regardless of ones opinion about the deceased, they are entitled to due process. And so far, this process stinks on ice.

75 posted on 03/31/2017 6:23:05 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: MileHi

“Gator chooses to ignore the wound size in favor of the MEs opinion about the size of the recovered, deformed projectiles and hang his hat on that to exonerate law enforceent of any wrong doing. I doubt the ME is a ballistic expert, but it fits Gators bias. It may or may not be a valid opinion. As I said in the first place, these are not ballistic reports.”

The wound size is NOT used to determine caliber. That is why it is ignored ...


76 posted on 03/31/2017 6:28:18 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: MileHi
"Only one was described as apparently medium to large caliber."

Manuel Issac Rodriguez, 40, Allen, one gunshot wound in the head and one in the back. Head: Medium Caliber NOT from police .223; Back: Medium Caliber NOT from police .223

Matthew Mark Smith, 27, Keller, one gunshot wound in the back and one in the abdomen.

Back: Medium Caliber NOT from police .223; Abdomen: Not Determined

Jesus Delgado Rodriguez, 65, New Braunfels, one gunshot wound to the head and one in the back. Head: Medium Caliber NOT from police .223; Trunk: Undertermined

Richard Matthew Jordan II, 31, Pasadena, one gunshot wound to the head. Head: Medium Caliber NOT from police .223

Richard Vincent Kirschner Jr., 47, Wylie, one gunshot wound to the top of the head, one to the left knee and one in the buttocks. Knee: Medium Caliber NOT from police .223; Buttocks: Small Caliber .223 or .22

Wayne Lee Campbell, 43, Fort Worth, one gunshot wound to the head. Trunk: Small Caliber .223 or .22

Daniel Raymond Boyett, 44, Waco, shot two times in the head. Head: Medium Caliber NOT from police .223; Abdomen: Medium Caliber NOT from police .223; Head: Undetermined

Charles Wayne Russell, 46, Tyler, shot once in the chest. Chest: Small Caliber .223 or .22

Jacob Lee Rhyne, 39, Ranger, shot once in the neck and once in the abdomen.Neck: Undertermined; Abdomen: Undetermined

Spaz. Arm: Not Available ... yet!

77 posted on 03/31/2017 6:29:45 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: MileHi

“Regardless of ones opinion about the deceased, they are entitled to due process. “

They are getting due process.


78 posted on 03/31/2017 6:30:43 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Elderberry

Thanks for posting this.


79 posted on 03/31/2017 6:31:39 PM PDT by Prolixus (Drain the swamp!!!)
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To: MileHi

“Also, of the ones not shot by AR-15 rounds, were any shot by undercovers with handguns? “

Is that the best you gang-loving dudes can keep coming up with?


80 posted on 03/31/2017 6:32:49 PM PDT by TexasGator
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