Posted on 03/20/2017 7:19:05 PM PDT by Strac6
Btw, I was not referring to blm bs. They're going to do what they're allowed to do, regardless. Their minds were made up on the spot. Some of the witness statements prove this. See Ferguson for example.
No offense but you seem naive. Do you think if Wilson jumped back in his vehicle, got on his PA after the shoot and explained and declared his innocents, you think anyone there would have bought it?
As it is, Hands Up - Dont Shoot is still accepted BS by many.
Accepted by leftist idiots, crack pots, racist and the lying media. This is not complex.
Exactly, look at Zimmerman, they (media) had video of him right away,and they doctored it, they had 911 call,and they doctored it. The meme was Zimmerman stalked and murdered St Trayvon, who was a mere baby boy,and on and on.
Once again, they lied in this scenario and they would tell you law enforcement was lying hours later if they had gave them Wilson's version of the event. They would be stupid to do that anyway. Every word they said would be litigated and if they didn't have time to investigate thoroughly, they'd get eaten alive legally later. Bet the rent.
Once again, they lied in this scenario and they would tell you law enforcement was lying hours later if they had gave them Wilson's version of the event. They would be stupid to do that anyway. Every word they said would be litigated and if they didn't have time to investigate thoroughly, they'd get eaten alive legally later. Bet the rent.
One more thing Strac, if they blew holes in a prematurely released statement from Wilson and the PD, it could have cost Wilson BIG as they'd use any errors or omissions to impeach Wilson's statement.
Yep.
All your points avoid the reality that by the PD PIO not releasing the proper statement immediately, the lies were allowed to fester and grow.
Ayoob says the same thing. Tell your story, but do not answer follow on questions. If you do not say what happened, and then point out the physical evidence supporting your story, the other side will tell their story.
Again, you can’t stop lies. They were lying about the event before Brown went cold, still in the street. Did you not seen witness statements? Some lied. They’re minds were made up immediately, regardless of what the media ever said.
Even when his statement was released, they didn’t buy it.
And just a reminder, Wilson was not indicted. If he had to do this over, you can bet he’d go the same route.
Awful advice. Guaranteed to get you charged.
Here is the correct advice:
1. Tell the cops you are the victim and you will fully cooperate, through your lawyer.
Call your lawyer. If you don’t have one, get one. A good one.
Don’t say another f’ing word until he tells you to.
Did you even read the original post, and the creds of the man writing it?
That is sound advise.
He’d make a great expert witness. Horrible advice to a shooter.
He is a moron if he thinks that a lot of glib talking at the scene is going to affect the investigation. No one gets it right immediately after a shooting. And, every mistake the shooter makes on chronology, sounds, movements, statements, appearances, etc. is a lie when it comes to the cold light of day a week or two later
And, half the stuff a prosecutor would ever have to prove, and some of it difficult to prove, is admitted by following that idiot’s bad advice.
Trust me on this. The police do not assume guilt when a person is smart enough to hold back his statement until he has legal advice.
Thanks but I'll follow Ayoob's advice........he's made a living off it.
I truly enjoy reading comments from people who actually know combat vernacular. Hope you don't take offense when I ask you what C-3 to C-5 means, Is that Seal talk or just basic marine combat training talk?
And I especially loved your final touch "to ensure I broke his neck and spinal cord, ensuring he was a quadriplegic
You definitely know what you're doing dude............
The C3, C4, and C5 vertebrae form the midsection of the cervical spine, near the base of the neck. Injuries to the nerves and tissue relating to the cervical region are the most severe of all spinal cord injuries because the higher up in the spine an injury occurs, the more damage that is caused to the central nervous system. Depending on the how severe the damage to the spinal cord is, the injury may be noted as complete or incomplete.
C3 Vertebrae
The C2 - C3 junction of the spinal column is important, as this is where flexion and extension occur (flexion is the movement of the chin toward the chest and extension is the backward movement of the head). Patients with spinal cord damage at the C3 level will have limited mobility in both their flexion and extension.
Symptoms of a C3 Level Injury
Symptoms of a spinal cord injury corresponding to C3 vertebrae include:
Limited range of motion
Loss of diaphragm function
Requirement of a ventilator for breathing
Paralysis in arms, hands, torso, and legs
Trouble controlling bladder and bowel function
C4 Vertebrae
The portion of the spinal cord which relates to the C4 vertebra directly affects the diaphragm. Patients with C4 spinal cord injuries typically need 24 hour-a-day support to breathe and maintain oxygen levels.
Symptoms of a C4 Level Injury
Symptoms of a spinal cord injury corresponding to C4 vertebrae include:
Loss of diaphragm function
Potential requirement of a ventilator for breathing
Limited range of motion
Paralysis in arms, hands, torso, and legs
Trouble controlling bladder and bowel function
C5 Vertebrae
Damage to the spinal cord at the C5 vertebra affects the vocal cords, biceps, and deltoid muscles in the upper arms. Unlike some of the higher cervical injuries, a patient with a C5 spinal cord injury will likely be able to breath and speak on their own.
Symptoms of a C5 Level Injury
Symptoms of a spinal cord injury corresponding to C5 vertebrae include:
Ability to speak and breathe on their own, but breathing will be weak
Paralysis in torso, legs, wrists, and hands
Paralysis may be experienced on one or both sides
Patients may be able to raise their arms and/or bend their elbows
Patients will need assistance with daily living, but may have some independent function
The boxer’s injury in Million Dollar Baby; classic C-3 / C-5 injury.
BOTTOM LINE: If you’re going to hurt someone in lieu of killing them, for a crime where theor killing would be morally justified, ensure you hurt them to the extent they wake up every morning.... and go to bed every night.... wishing you had killed them, rather than just hurt them.
Actually, no. The worst thing you want is a directionless LEO investigation.
1: Make a truthful set of statements as Ayoob dictates.
@: Point out evidence.
#: Do not answer questions
is smarter than staying silent. 10 years ago, silence was best, but today, it is not, because the live perp, or the dead perps friends will lie and tell false “side” of the story to make you look criminally negligent, and that will set the direction of the investigation.
Imagine this scenario. You go one on one with a mugger on the street. He is shot. You are not. You stay silent, while the perp swears he and his three friends we walking down the street when you started calling them “n*****s”, pulled a gun and started blasting. The perp, dead or otherwise, has his gun disappear off the street, or simply say they drew after you started blasting with your gun... and his friends swear to it.
Now put yourself in the place of the cop. Who are you going to target your investigation toward?
When said in the ghetto; “Swear to God, Officer, Swear to God” means the speaker is lying through his teeth.
Remember the Richard “Racehorse” Haynes “defense” of any person accused of murderer. Simply convince the jury that the dead clunk was such a bad guy that if somehow the clunk sprang back to life during Haynes’ closing argument, all 12 members of the jury would wrestle one another to get the gun in evidence to shoot him again, really dead this time!
Short form: “The decedent deserved to die, and my client deserved the honor of killing him.”
Actually, yes. Your lawyer will be there in an hour and will provide better direction and keep your statements from becoming admissible if the police turn out to disagree with you.
The stupidest concept I ever heard to have the shooter attempting to direct the investigation with his own sttements.
“”You definitely know what you’re doing dude.””
Regarding post #96, if this, “dude” knows what they’re doing, then why is this “dude” copying then posting information they’ve obtained from another site onto this one?
www.spinalcord.com/c3-c4-c5-vertebrae-spinal-cord-injury
Thanks for sharing.
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