Posted on 03/09/2017 9:26:56 AM PST by SeekAndFind
More info on the NY Times:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPx2OwYSsAQ
Summary: from China Uncensored.
NY Times maybe only western newspaper in China because NY Times turns a blind eye to Chinese human rights abuses and genocide.
Me: not surprising given its history.
Sorry for clunky post.
The Russia/Trump narrative seems to have originated with Alexandra Chalupa, a long time Democrat operative and a Ukrainian activist. She worked in the White House Office of Public Liaison during the Clinton administration. She co-founded the Ethnic Council of the Democratic Party. She organized protests against Manafort.
The narrative is heavily promoted on twitter by Andrea Chalupa, a Ukrainian activist and Alexandra’s daughter. She founded DigitalMaidan, an online movement that made the Ukrainian protests the #1 trending topic on Twitter worldwide
Irena Chalupa, a Ukrainian activist and Alexandra’s daughter(?) is a fellow at the Atlantic Council. Former Ukrainian president Leonid Kuchma’s son-in-law, Victor Pinchuk, sits on the Advisory Board of the Atlantic Council. In 2015 he donated between $100,000 $249,000 to the Atlantic Council.
The claim that Russia breached the DNC email system originates with Crowdstrike, a company founded by Dmitri Alperovitch. Alperovitch is a fellow at the Atlantic Council. Crowdstrike is closely associated with and heavily funded by Clinton colleague Timothy Geithner. Geithner’s company, Warburg Pincus, has provided $100M to Crowdstrike and 30% of Crowdstrike’s board members are from Warburg Pincus. He is a disgruntled Russian emigre.
The DNC refused FBI access to their email system, instead they were made to rely on Alperovitch’s investigation. Alperovitch bases his claim partly on the claims of a Russian blogger. The blogger claims that Ukrainian military units were targeted via malware inserted onto Ukrainian tablet computers, the malware provided to Russia the location of Ukrainian troops. As “evidence” the blogger cites a 2016 International Institute for Strategic Studies report of a sharp reduction of Ukrainian D-30 howitzers between 2013 and 2015. Ukraine denies any large loss of D-30 howitzers in this period. Alperovitch claims this same malware was used to breach the DNC email system. The malware has been available for years prior to the DNC breach.
Clinton’s “Russia narrative” originates with Russia hating Ukrainians who worked for the Clintons. Claims that “Russia hacked the DNC” are based on the dubious claims of persons funded by Clinton associates.
There’s more...
In October 2016 Andrea Chalupa tweeted “In intel circles, the story goes FSB filmed Trump in an orgy while in Russia. Yes, this all ends in a Trump sex tape.” This claim eventually surfaced in Buzzfeed’s “dossier” in January, 2017.
These attacks on Trump all originate with Clinton associates.
Frpm the article
“...
matters did not come to a head until last Saturday morning. In a tweet-burst, President Trump made the controversial allegation that President Obama had ordered that Trump be subjected to wiretapping at Trump Tower, where his campaign had been headquartered.
To say the least, it is unfortunate that this was the angle Trump chose to pursue. There is plenty of support for the overarching proposition that the Obama administration used its law-enforcement and intelligence powers to investigate Trump associates during the campaign. There is, to my knowledge, no evidence that Trump personally was wiretapped. So instead of highlighting the alarming things that may be true, President Trump’s tweets obsessed over something that probably is not true.
Nevertheless, even if Trump’s allegation was false, the tweets demanded attention to the real scandal: Was the Obama administration investigating the Trump campaign? ...”
Author is wrong.
Trump campaign & Trump Tower comms are one and the same.
For the author to say that President Trump was wrong to say his tower was bugged, and not say his campaign was bugged is splitting hairs.
kalee wrote:
“The problem with electronic books and media, the record is no longer permanent and can be changed with the political wind.”
That’s why we have the wayback machine & screen caps; the latter can, and have, been put on Twitter & other electronic communications.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3533119/posts?page=17#17
Ping to Grampa Dave!
Need screencap of new headline, to compare to that old headline you posted ...
If Flynn was talking to the Russian Ambassador, there is a very high chance that the Ambassador was in Washington, DC.
Is there an explanation for how a phone call from Trump Tower in New York is routed to Washington DC via an overseas connection?
I think Why is a rhetorical question, right?
Keep posting that original front page of Jan 20 with the red circles. For chuckles, post the new one side by side.
This is not like an actual correction, now is it? It is an attempt to pull off a huge lie.
Ironic, the NYT meme about truth, eh?
This is absolutely the best.
Ima come right out and say it:
Journalists are stupid!
Change a headline from three months ago? One that’s gone viral already with the red circles? Why not just send your people out the door with sandwich boards that read:
I am so stupid. Kick me.
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Wrong article, next screen caps of the old 1/19/2017 headline with the new 1/19/2017 headline at
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-investigation.html?_r=1
Juxtaposing the two.
Wrong. Even if the NSA or the FBI was monitoring the communications of Russian “agents”, including Amb. Kislyak, US Intelligence Directives and US law: 1) Forbids NSA from recording and/or retaining that portion of the “internals” of the communication attributed to a US person without specific authorization; and 2) Mandate that the FBI (or any other Title 3 authorized federal agency involved in domestic counterintelligence operations) “Minimize” - not listen to or record - the communications of an American citizen not related to the investigation/operation.
Bottom line: SOMEONE did, in fact, record and transcribe a conversation between Amb. Kislyak and Mike Flynn, the incoming National Security Advisor. My bet is that they did so in violation of US law unless the President of the United States personally authorized the electronic surveillance and coordinated the operation with the Department of Justice.
If the Justice Dept/FBI/CIA were investigating “The Russians!!” then they wouldn’t have been able to keep and disseminate any information they gathered on US citizens. That would be a huge breech of FISA law.
RE: Forbids NSA from recording and/or retaining that portion of the “internals” of the communication attributed to a US person without specific authorization;
OK, here are some questions in regard to this law.
1) “without specific authorization” <-— WHO DOES THIS and is this person accountable at all?
2) If the objective is national security, what’s the point of not retaining the internals of the communication especially if you discovered the US citizen communicating with the outside party is a terrorist in waiting?
Won’t you need the internals for the purpose of prosecution?
RE: If the Justice Dept/FBI/CIA were investigating “The Russians!!” then they wouldn’t have been able to keep and disseminate any information they gathered on US citizens. That would be a huge breech of FISA law.
Let’s replace the word “Russians” with ISIS for the moment.
If the objective is national security, what’s the point of not retaining the information gathered especially if you discovered that is was a US citizen communicating with the outside party, in other words, an American terrorist in waiting?
Won’t you need the information gathered for the purpose of prosecution?
That is a smoking gun on the NYT as a propaganda organ for the deep state coup against Trump.
This is falling apart rapidly on the the left. It is being scoffed at by normal Americans. No one believes the Russians did anything much less anything justifying obama’s wire taps of the opposition candidate 6 weeks before the election!! Why hasn’t the press interviewed obama? Nary a peep from the boy. We have all seen the original head line right here on free republic. To change that now is laughable, The head line itself was PROOF of obama wiretapping Trump. We know that Trump was wiretapped directly because of the transcripts of his personal telephone conversations with the Australian and Mexico honchos. What is the justifications of that? HUMMMMMM? We have serious criminal violations and assaults on our constitution by OBAMA!! Right here and you can’t make it go away by rewriting your headlines!! In stead of the head line “Japs bomb Pearl Harbor” do you change that to “Pacific Fleet has sea worthiness questioned” ?
1. The authorization would come from the FIS court.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Court
2. There are a number of policies and procedures in place for instances in which exigent circumstances and immediate threats, i.e., discussion of plans for a terrorist attack, allow for immediate dissemination and exploitation of the information.
Proceeds of a FISA warrant are almost always classified, but can be introduced in court with redaction of classified information.
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