Posted on 02/09/2017 5:52:12 AM PST by Enlightened1
Oh, did I hurt your feelings?
We may be splitting hair.
The wave of immigrants that came in the early 1900s were officially welcomed, they did not have to evade dogs, immigration agents, go through miles of deserts, and be in fear of being deported.
I understand that things have gotten easier the last decade, but before that it was definitely a challenge for Mexicans to come here.
I agree with you that since we started giving them benefits and coddling them, it has reduced the challenge and thus the “quality” of the immigrant.
Does Fred Barnes still hang out with this lunatic?
I like that term NPR republicans... they are the tame republicans that the democratic party wishes was in control right now.
Jews don't consider themselves to be "white".
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-white-response-to-haaretz-article/
I’m not sure what the big deal is about this. Open borders was the mainstream conservative position from about 1997 until about 2015.
The only thing Bill Kristol is guilty of here is not changing his mind. If Bill Kristol should face the firing squad for wanting high levels of immigration, so should everyone who voted for Dubya.
Conservatives had several chances to follow paleocons like Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul who would have reduced immigration and they overwhelmingly chose to support neocons and their allies who favored open borders. People weren’t even allowed to praise Pat Buchanan on FR back in the late 90’s. All the Buchanan supporters were banned and they even had whole forums for paleocons purged from FR.
There are a lot of Johnny come lately’s running around now freaking out about immigration, where were they 20-25 years ago when the problem was just getting out of control and could have been stopped more easily? Back in the 90’s a lot of Democrats and liberals favored less immigration, usually on economic grounds. It was the Gingrich Congress that blocked bi-partisan immigration reform(back when reform meant restriction) legislation that had been already written and that Clinton would have signed.
Look up the Barbara Jordan Commission and some of Bill’s speeches around 1995-96 if you don’t believe me. I remember when lowering immigration was a mainstream position in the liberal media. In the first half of the 1990’s publicans like the Atlantic discussed its merits and lots of liberal TV news and newspapers had coverage of immigration, especially illegal immigration, that was very critical. At the time, it was the Wall St. Journal and Commentary magazine that were pushing the real hardcore open borders propaganda, not the center left. The New York Times editorialized against amnesty for illegals as recently as 2000, the same year conservatives elected a hardcore amnesty extremist to President.
Conservatives need to do a lot of soul searching about the movement’s failure to take reasonable positions on immigration over the years.
“Any Freeper that agrees in any way with Kristol needs to be zotted. This should be a zot thread.”
But if we did that, there would be no Russia haters left on FR.
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