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Who is the founding father of fake news? (It isn't Dan Rather)

Posted on 01/27/2017 6:54:17 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica

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"Objective journalism" was designed to facilitate fake news.
1 posted on 01/27/2017 6:54:17 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica
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To: ProgressingAmerica

FAKE NEWS has been around for decades/longer. It’s just now getting press bc the left sees it and imagines it being used against them.


2 posted on 01/27/2017 6:57:29 AM PST by ALASKA (Landslide.........)
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Progressives do not want to discuss their own history. I want to discuss their history.

Summary: "Objective journalism" was designed to facilitate fake news through the aggressive use of stereotypes.

3 posted on 01/27/2017 6:58:47 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot leave history to "the historians" anymore.)
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Walter Cronkite is as good a candidate as any. What a traitor, revered in his time.


4 posted on 01/27/2017 6:58:50 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Yellow Journalism has been around forever. There is nothing new under the sun.


5 posted on 01/27/2017 6:59:04 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

He comes to my mind


6 posted on 01/27/2017 7:00:25 AM PST by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Intentionally inaccurate news has been around as long as news.

Rather put the “fake” in the label and elevated “Fake but Accurate” to a legitimate journalism technique that reporters could admit to rather try to cover up.


7 posted on 01/27/2017 7:00:41 AM PST by LostPassword
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Belongs in chat.


8 posted on 01/27/2017 7:01:19 AM PST by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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To: ALASKA

Maybe ‘low information’ voters are to blame. They have been greedily gobbling up all the BS pandered by these ‘Hollywood wannabe’s’ for so long that it’s an established industry by now!!


9 posted on 01/27/2017 7:05:32 AM PST by SMARTY ("Nearly all men can stand adversity...to test a man's character, give him power." A. Lincoln)
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To: RegulatorCountry

You nailed it right there. CBS news is the grand daddy of fake news.


10 posted on 01/27/2017 7:05:56 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

The question that arises is whether Lippman was advocating “faking the news”, or pointing out that “faking the news” happens, and pointing out how it was possible. Sort of like 1984 elucidated the true nature of socialism while not advocating the adoption of same.

(Note...I haven’t read the book...yet...).


11 posted on 01/27/2017 7:07:47 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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"Objective journalism" was designed to facilitate fake news.

Exactly. Newspapers until the Progressive Era were absolutely known as outlets for specific political views. 'Objectivity' was a lie to fool rubes.

Walter Duranty and the New York Times should have destroyed the objectivity myth decades ago.

12 posted on 01/27/2017 7:11:30 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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Bernays' Ideas on Propaganda Continue to Haunt Americans
http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/item/19553-bernays-ideas-on-propaganda-continue-to-haunt-americans

When Americans see the bizarre responses of the mainstream media and the progressive politicians to tragedies such as the Tucson shootings — for instance, the proposal to ban rhetoric or symbols perceived to be violent — many wonder how the country has come to this strange place where elitists are moving to gain control at the expense of individual liberties. Perhaps one need not look past the Woodrow Wilson administration for the answer.

Today’s politicians and progressives seem to have taken some notes right out of the works of Edward Bernays, President Wilson’s propaganda master. The author of books such as Crystallizing Public Opinion (1923) and Propaganda (1928) — both of which were heavily utilized by Adolf Hitler’s Nazi propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels — Bernays has been credited with manipulating public opinion about such varied subjects as World War I, smoking, and even bacon. He has been dubbed the “Father of Spin” and the “Godfather of modern public relations” because of his extraordinary ability to alter public opinion.
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13 posted on 01/27/2017 7:11:42 AM PST by VitacoreVision
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To: RegulatorCountry

I clicked on this thread to say Walter Cronkite, anti-USA fake news founding father.


14 posted on 01/27/2017 7:14:12 AM PST by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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For TV anyway.


15 posted on 01/27/2017 7:14:49 AM PST by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Fake news has been around far longer. Remember when the New York Sun reported on finding men with wings on the moon back around 1835? They even had a series printed about it.


16 posted on 01/27/2017 7:16:47 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Don’t forget the popular Walter Duranty of the NYT, no relation to the great Jimmy Durante.


17 posted on 01/27/2017 7:18:02 AM PST by Theodore R. (Let's not squander the golden opportunity of 2017.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Even LBJ questioned Mr. Cronkite’s loyalty.


19 posted on 01/27/2017 7:19:13 AM PST by Theodore R. (Let's not squander the golden opportunity of 2017.)
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To: Yorlik803

Were any of the “Murrow boys” honest in reporting?


20 posted on 01/27/2017 7:20:44 AM PST by Theodore R. (Let's not squander the golden opportunity of 2017.)
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