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Amazon is going to kill more American jobs than China did
Market Watch ^ | 20 January 2016 | Rex Nutting

Posted on 01/23/2017 3:36:10 PM PST by Lorianne

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To: max.ripp
That is very interesting but irrelevant to the discussion of off shoring.

We did not import many consumer goods 30 years ago. We had factories making those things. Perhaps they were inefficient. Yes, they could have been automated and productivity increased but the NWO Globalists, i.e. "Captains of Industry", decided that instead of automating USA's factories, like you did in your example, it was better to get 3rd peasants working under God knows what conditions to make our products and ship them back duty free.

The key was a corrupt Federal Govt that has kept import duties so low for so long. It is the linchpin of this NWO scheme to strip mine American industry.

The very liberal(crazy) VICE channel did an investigation and actually went to a port at long Beach CA. He actually talked to the dock workers. Containers full of cargo(consumer goods) from China and elsewhere arrive daily and what do we send back? Mostly empty containers. The bulk of the exports are recyclable material. This is the road to poverty my friend. He summed it up by saying that the USA's chief export is empty containers. This first hand reporting not some bogus study.

101 posted on 01/24/2017 10:04:35 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: max.ripp
Fact 5. We import durable goods from factories all over the 3rd world that used to be made by US workers. If those factories were ON shored back to the USA then manufacturing production and output would be even greater than it is today.

Don't piss down my back and tell me its raining.

103 posted on 01/24/2017 10:33:38 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: max.ripp

Well a 20% import tariff would level the playing field.


105 posted on 01/24/2017 10:35:50 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: max.ripp
I know basic arithmetic. Most business problems are basic math problems and usually not to hard to understand since I have advanced degree in Engineering.

So you are saying that if we did not off shore entire industries, like consumer electronics for example, the USA's industrial output would be the same as it is today? That is crazy.

It is a simple formula: Let X = current US industrial output. Let Y = imported durable goods.

Now if Y production is onshored then current US industrial output increases to X + Y. Very simple math here.

108 posted on 01/24/2017 10:52:15 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: max.ripp

We have an $800B trade deficit which is disgusting.


109 posted on 01/24/2017 10:53:45 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: max.ripp
The fact remains that US manufacturing output is at nearly an all time high while manufacturing jobs continue to decline. How do explain that?

That's good. Let's on shore and go for more!

The math is simple but the problem is complex. If we impose tariffs on import we need to be aware it could lead to retalitory tariffs on our exports

This is silly, we are in a trade war now it is just we don't fight back against the tariffs our exports face globally.

The cost differential between manufacturing in the US vs 3rd world is pocketed by the middle men. There is no net benefit to the consumer. Actually stuff made in China is mostly crap. Quality has suffered. Look at car parts. Asian stuff is junk.

112 posted on 01/24/2017 11:30:28 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: max.ripp

I have a degree in EE but I am a softwre developer now.


113 posted on 01/24/2017 11:34:38 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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The retailer is making the high margin, typically over 60%. Many if not most of them are in the process of being disintermediated, so we can onshore production and actually save money, as well as provide employment opportunities for those displaced due to the near collapse of retail. Amazon is not trustworthy though, in my opinion. They badly need serious domestic competition.


115 posted on 01/24/2017 11:51:04 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: max.ripp
Why would the cost reduction be passed on to the consumer? The stock holders would have none of it.

It is reasonable to insist that the products to be sold in the USA be made in the USA. Trade deficits are intolerable. If you don't agree then you are just another a Free Traitor™ and we can table the discussion.

Bushitte NWO Free Traders will have a chance in 4 years to get behind a RINO globalist Cheap Labor Hack running for President. Right now we are seeing a different road being taken by Mr. Trump. Its been a long time coming.

117 posted on 01/24/2017 11:55:48 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: max.ripp

I’ve never dealt with their net profit. I have, however dealt with their margin expectations, and they’re in excess of 60% which practically precludes most domestic sourcing of day to day items, apparel, etc.


120 posted on 01/24/2017 11:59:00 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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