Posted on 12/25/2016 3:24:31 PM PST by monkapotamus
He gave many millions of dollars and his own time to charities and "respectable" people in need. Including over $3,000,000 to Childline (a British charity which helps abused children).
He probably had a guilty conscience, but good works won't get you into Heaven.
What could be more Christian and philanthropic than that?
Repenting, asking for forgiveness and giving up the filthy and decadent queer death-style. (which killed him and many others)
I find it sickening to come across these kind of hateful prejudiced comments on a Christian Conservative discussion forum.
Whatever.
According to the book...it's "an abomination".
I still find very talented people in this modern age...people that play their own instruments and can write amazing lyrics. A lot of it gets played on the radio. Lots of garbage out there, I know, but there are still some good musicians, songwriters, and singers out there.
I didn't say that your words 'hurt' me. I am not gay. I said I found your anti-gay prejudice and hateful attitude sickening. In the same way that I find the attitude of Islamic State towards Christians and other "nonbelievers" sickening. In the same way that I found the attitude of the Nazis towards the Jews sickening.
It appears that you have a lot in common with Islamic State and the Nazis, as they also despise homosexuals and cannot tolerate their existence. Apparently, hating someone because of your religion's dogma is perfectly acceptable to you. Just remember that people in some other religions hate you just because of their religion's dogma too. Have you ever considered thinking for yourself for a change?
Do you have any evidence to support that disgusting accusation? Or do you simply assume that because he was gay and he gave money to Childline he was secretly a child molester? He also gave money and a lot of his personal time to a homeless shelter. Does that mean he was secretly a slum landlord too?
"but good works won't get you into Heaven."
No. But apparently being a hateful bigot will.
"Repenting, asking for forgiveness and giving up the filthy and decadent queer death-style. (which killed him and many others)"
Have you considered that he might have wished to be heterosexual? It's a lot easier to have a pleasant life if you are straight rather than gay. Sexual orientation is not a simple binary choice, it is heavily influenced by genetic predisposition, an individual's personal life experiences and early dysfunctional family relationship issues.
How do you know his homosexuality led to his death? It was reported that he began experimenting with heroin recently. He could have easily over-dosed if he was inexperienced, or using it alongside alcohol/cannabis.
"According to the book...it's "an abomination"."
So you hate him (despite his philanthropy) because of something scribbled down a few millennia ago by an ignorant peasant in the Middle East? What a great way to live your life!
You know Saint Augustine wrote 'Cum dilectione hominum et odio vitiorum' which means 'hate the sin and not the sinner', but I suppose you don't subscribe to that sort of liberal attitude?
Yup, 80% of queers ADMIT to having been molested by men as children. 20% don't admit to it.
Ever heard of "chicken hawks"...NAMBLA?
Have you considered that he might have wished to be heterosexual?
Do you have any evidence to support that allegation?
Sexual orientation is not a simple binary choice, it is heavily influenced by genetic predisposition, an individual's personal life experiences and early dysfunctional family relationship issues.
It's caused by filthy pederasts.
How do you know his homosexuality led to his death?
It usually does, the queer-deathstyle generally results in a significantly shortened lifespan. All the ones I ever knew have either passed away or killed themselves.
So you hate him
I never said I hated him, just that; "I don't have that much sympathy for child molesters."
because of something scribbled down a few millennia ago by an ignorant peasant in the Middle East?
You're calling God an ignorant peasant?
You know Saint Augustine wrote 'Cum dilectione hominum et odio vitiorum' which means 'hate the sin and not the sinner', but I suppose you don't subscribe to that sort of liberal attitude?
I'm going with the: "It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones." comment.
Wait a minute....you're not a packer are you?
You said that he was a child molester, not that he was molested when he was a child. Also, why should a victim of a sexual crime have to 'ADMIT' to it, as you so revealingly state? Or do you perceive a man to be diminished as a man because he was sexually abused by a man when he was a (non-consenting) child?
It is clearly incorrect to state that ALL gay men are paedophiles, but I don't expect you to have the integrity to acknowledge that fact.
"Have you considered that he might have wished to be heterosexual? ... Do you have any evidence to support that allegation?"
Well he started off as a straight man (check his Wikipedia entry) and seems to have become exclusively gay in middle age. He obviously tried to pursue sexual relationships with women in his early adulthood, but it did not work out.
"Wait a minute....you're not a packer are you?"
No. I am not gay, as I already told the other Westboro Baptist Church bigot. I simply find it reprehensible that you and your hate-filled associates feel the need to insult a man shortly after his death and dismiss his philanthropic efforts just because he was gay. (However, I realise that genuine altruism is a concept you will have some difficulty understanding.)
No. I am not gay. I just object to your disgusting character assassination of a gay man who did more for charities than you could ever dream of doing.
Actually, homosexuals and the NAZI party have a very intertwined and interesting relationship. Read a book, then come back and talk.
If you mean the Nazi regime brutally persecuted homosexuals; required them to wear pink triangles, conducted brutal experiments on them, castrated them and murdered them in concentration camps, then you are correct. If, however, you are referring to the ridiculous Lively/Abrams conspiracy theory which claims that senior Nazi party members were actually gay and deliberately recruited gay men into the SS because they could be turned into savage mass-killers more easily than straight men, then you are incorrect. (Try getting your history from somewhere other than morally bankrupt talk radio stations and far right hate-mongers.)
"Meanwhile, go be a pompous, uneducated ass on someone else's time."
Sorry? What you have posted on this thread was a product of some sort of education?
No, they're not...but neither do those non-pederasts speak out loudly against those who are.
Also note that not all who were molested as boys turned out to be queer, but they're still messed up.
why should a victim of a sexual crime have to 'ADMIT' to it, as you so revealingly state?
Well, 20% of them don't. I guess they're proud of being queer (gay pride).
I already told the other Westboro Baptist Church bigot.
Big talk coming from a heterophobic bigot.
Although the intolerant hater faggots make up only 1 to 3% of the population, they have infested and corrupted practically every segment of our culture, from the media, to the military, to the churches (yes, including the Catholic Church) They first demanded to be accepted, then treated as equal, now they are exercising the attempt to completey dominate the culture...especially "education" where they can now easily harvest our children.
Looks like a hate crime.
Your comment demonstrates why so many straight boys/men who are raped never complain to the Police or anyone else about it. You are effectively saying that because someone was forced to engage in homosexual activity that afterwards they are forever "tainted" and are either gay or bisexual. That is a wicked attitude to take to a sex crime victim. Being raped by a man must be a horrendous experience for a straight male on its own, but to have to endure that extra layer of stigma thanks to the prejudice of people like you is terrible.
"Big talk coming from a heterophobic bigot."
For the fourth time on this thread: I AM NOT GAY! Not everyone does everything out of pure selfishness you know.
"Although the intolerant hater faggots make up only 1 to 3% of the population"
'Intolerant hater faggots' - can you not see your own hypocrisy?
Quite a bit.
Christianity isn't just performing good works. Most antiChristian actions are immersed in good works.
A common emotional response of the carnal man is to perform a good work to satiate a feeling of guilt, thereby justifying his behavior to his conscience.
Christianity is very different. It is a living fellowship with God Himself.
It's common decency not to dismiss a man's career and philanthropic activities in a public forum shortly after his death just because he was gay. It is the feelings of his family and friends which concern me. You must be a borderline sociopath if you cannot understand that.
"Here's a link so you can actually *read* The Pink Swastika instead of dismissing their work because your boyfriend told you so. The body of work has withstood the test of time without serious challenge."
For the fifth time on this thread: I AM NOT GAY! Do I have to post a pic of myself having sex with my girlfriend to prove it? LOL
I have read some of the cited evidence on that website. But that evidence cannot be verified by me right now. However, let's just assume for the sake of argument that some senior Nazi party members were "butch" gay men with a proclivity towards BDSM and pederasty. That does not change the fact that the Nazis arrested roughly 100,000 men suspected of being homosexuals, 15,000 gay men were sent to Concentration Camps where they were forced to wear pink triangles, were experimented on, castrated and released or killed.
But how do we know that these Nazi leaders were not actually bisexuals? German Law would find a man guilty of being a homosexual if he had engaged in "homosexual acts" but he could have had a straight sex life too. These men may have been straight on the surface (to give them a respectable public face) but they also engaged in gay sex/BDSM with minors as a release for their cruel sexually sadistic natures. Frankly, they were evil people who would have enjoyed indulging in sexual sadism, just as they enjoyed beating-up/killing Jews and Slavs.
In any case, the sexuality of those Nazi leaders was irrelevant to their government's policies. Because what drove the Nazi Party to do the despicable things they did was their Aryan racial superiority belief, not the fact that some of their leaders may have been bisexuals/gays who engaged in gay BDSM and pederasty. To give a share of the blame for the wickedness of the Nazis to ALL gay men adds insult to injury, as the effeminate genetically predisposed gay men (at the very least) would all have been killed by the Nazis.
No, I said what I said: They are either queer -OR- "messed up"...straight, celibate or otherwise, and needing a shrink for the rest of their lives.
but to have to endure that extra layer of stigma thanks to the prejudice of people like you is terrible.
I never said nor implied any such thing homophile. I said 80% OF QUEERS...admitted to being molested....(by queers)
I AM NOT GAY!
I'm sure you're not happy. You're on here having to defend fudge-packing, AIDS-pride, felching, corpophagia, and all the other unhealthy filthy practices the screaming RAT-faggots engage in...(not to mention blatant pederasty)
'Intolerant hater faggots' - can you not see your own hypocrisy?
HELL NO! I'd say it agian. They hate me, and want to tear down every institution, convention and organization in the world that practices decent and moral behavior. They're doing a pretty good job of it too.
Why should I be forced to "tolerate" the intolerant?
By the way...queers also beat up and kill each other a lot more than normal people.
I'd say that none of them are.
I don't expect you to have the integrity to acknowledge that fact.
Why not, you're technically correct. A pedo is attracted to children. Why would any self-respecting rump ranger be interested in little girls?
However, they do have a high incidence of pederasty. (boy-raping)
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