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Shocker: Even Obama Lawyers Admit Birth Certificate Forged: “But Eligibility’s A Separate Matter”
SHTFplan.com ^ | 12/16/2016 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 12/16/2016 4:19:30 PM PST by Elderberry

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To: SeanG200

Cruz was born in Calgary and that’s in Alberta, Canada- 3 hours north of our American border.

Ted is a natural born Canadian citizen and held onto his Canadian citizenship until 2015.

His father was Cuban citizen until 1968. Then he became a Canadian citizen until 2005.

His mother was born in the USA, was a British resident for 6-7 years and then became a Canadian citizen.

The Cruz family moved to the USA when he was 5 yrs old.


61 posted on 12/17/2016 12:08:24 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ('45 will be the best ever.)
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To: batterycommander

There were pictures of the survivors swimming out of and around the aircraft as it was still floating. She was in the water with other people around here very alive as the others were. Simply, she was drowned.


62 posted on 12/17/2016 2:23:43 AM PST by mazda77
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To: David

The two SCOTUS appointments Bath House Barry made are where he is really vulnerable now. What Trump needs to do is ignore this for 35 more days and THEN blow it up. When Trump has all the levers of power and all the BSM has is Fake News.


63 posted on 12/17/2016 5:09:32 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Did he register for the draft?

New Research Surfaces on the Obama “forged” Selective Service issue

64 posted on 12/17/2016 5:41:28 AM PST by Elderberry
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To: Bon mots
"Since" you brought it up,IMHO Loretta Fuddy may not be dead.

There was an elaborate plot to stage the crash of a small plane with ten passengers with the only death supposed to be Fuddy.

However there exists a three hour video that was painstakingly done that reveals almost any question you can ask about the episode.I was fortunate enough to view it but don't feel as if I have the right to chat about it. So I will let it go at that.

Sufficed it to say there are a lot of questions about the entire plane crash that will probably never be answered.

65 posted on 12/17/2016 5:53:41 AM PST by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: marron
So she is the only one to ever admit having seen the real BC; she refused to confirm that the one posted was the real one. And within short order she was dead in a bizarre accident.

There were a number of cod's(causes of death),drowning,asphyxiation, etc etc. others by more than one individual. You can almost pick the one you like. Bottom line where's the body where are the ashes? Cricketts....

66 posted on 12/17/2016 5:57:54 AM PST by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: mazda77

Then why the no autopsy and why the cremation? A very timely death indeed.


67 posted on 12/17/2016 6:56:21 AM PST by batterycommander (Surrounded? Stay clammed and call for artillery. USNA 65)
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To: philman_36

Yes 13489,and yes it was to control and seal anything he deemed bad. Here’s an old thread on it

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2304500/posts


68 posted on 12/17/2016 7:38:51 AM PST by bigtoona (Make America Great Again! America First!)
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To: Elderberry

I have thought for many months now that the Constitution should be amended to require that any candidate for POTUS be subjected to a background check. It makes no sense that the only person NOT subjected to a background check is the person who will hold the highest office in the land!


69 posted on 12/17/2016 8:46:21 AM PST by matchgirl (Can you hear the people sing!)
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To: batterycommander

Truth is we have no idea who or what was creamated.


70 posted on 12/17/2016 8:51:18 AM PST by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: batterycommander

My guess is Fuddy was a sort of homey for ozero,she may have escaped the wide hit list they have of offing almost anyone they don’t like.It’s very possible they went to extraordinary lengths to give her a new id and I bet she’s still in Hawaii.


71 posted on 12/17/2016 8:53:44 AM PST by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: FReepaholic
I think they kill too....

I guess its just "luck" for them that Fuddy died and "luck" for them that the supposed grandma of the bammy died so quietly...

and we're just "unlucky" to have Scalia die and Breitbart...and probably countless others..

72 posted on 12/17/2016 9:00:09 AM PST by cherry
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To: SeanG200; LucyT
"Cruz’s mother is a U.S. citizen, just like Obama’s mother. They are both qualified to be President."

Nonsense. The statutes are very clear.

If Barry was born in Kenya to Stanley Ann, he clearly fails under the statute--no argument. Everything else, including my speculation about Canada, is just that--speculation and irrelevant until the facts are in the record.

Cruz on the other hand has a somewhat better position. His mother passed Citizenship to her son born outside the US to a non citizen father--again, the statute is clear and specific.

Cruz has two problems. One is technical compliance with the statute which is not all that clear. The other is that the established Constitutional Law view excludes statutory citizenship at birth and does include only birth in the several states. At present, my forecast is that the Supreme Court would hold Cruz eligible if he were elected but that is not supported by any operative precedent.

73 posted on 12/17/2016 9:48:39 AM PST by David
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To: bigtoona
So 44 U.S.C. Chapter 22, passed many years after 13489, means nothing to you?

Or will you not have any opinion of your own and once again direct me to another thread?

74 posted on 12/17/2016 10:31:12 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: Elderberry

He isn’t a legal US citizen. Lock Pelosi up.


75 posted on 12/17/2016 10:38:50 AM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: fortheDeclaration
Why are his school records sealed?

Most likely for receiving financial aid for being from Kenya.

76 posted on 12/17/2016 10:40:21 AM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: David

Actually, he would not be a U.S. citizen if Stanley Ann Dunham were legally married to Barack Obama, Sr. But Obama was at that time already married to another woman. Therefore, Dunham doesn’t have to be age 19 in 1961, since U.S. law would deem the marriage of Obama-Dunham as void, as bigamy is illegal. in 1961 and 2008/2012.

Also, under Kenyan law Barack Obama II would receive Kenyan citizenship at birth. Under British law, Barack Obama would have British Commonwealth citizenship from birth, if he applied before age 21. When adopted by Soetoro, Obama obtained Indonesian citizenship. So he had three citizenships at birth, and a fourth at age 6.

Natural-born? U.S. Supreme Court could have heard the case, but declined, ran away from that case. From a legal standpoint, I don’t know what his legal status(es) are. I never heard that he ever renounced his Indonesian citizenship, and I have heard that when a person becomes a citizen of Infonesia (including minor persons), he must give up all other citizenships. If so, then he was not eligible to be President. But no U.S. court has taken the case.


77 posted on 12/17/2016 12:49:07 PM PST by bIlluminati (Who is Horatio Bunce?)
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To: Ray76
If there were a valid BHO BC that had just one field containing something inconvenient, Occam's Razor suggests that would be the (altered) BC he'd have proffered.

That suggests, contrary to speculators here, that it's not simply that FMD or Malcom X provided the daddy part, but that the entire situation "required" an entirely-revamped LFBC.

78 posted on 12/17/2016 1:01:38 PM PST by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: rx

Yes. that makes sense.


79 posted on 12/17/2016 2:41:47 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ('45 will be the best ever.)
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To: David; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; TWhiteBear; WildHighlander57; Velveeta; ...
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>>>>If the fake Birth Certificate is evidence of anything in context, it is that he can't produce a Birth Certificate that does show he is eligible to hold the office.<<<<

Check out article, remainder of # 44, and subsequent comments.

Thanks, David.

80 posted on 12/17/2016 4:31:22 PM PST by LucyT
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