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Study: 'Obamacare' repeal-only would make 30M uninsured
Associated Press ^ | Dec 7, 2016 2:03 PM EST | Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar

Posted on 12/07/2016 3:18:59 PM PST by Olog-hai

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To: Olog-hai

FWIW, total 2015-2016 ObamaCare enrollment was 12.7 million people.


21 posted on 12/07/2016 3:38:40 PM PST by rdcbn ("There is no means of avoiding a final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alt)
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To: Secret Agent Man

>> As opposed to 30 million broke from being coerced by law to pay very high premiums and deductibles.

Exactly. Obamacare will cost me $25k 2017.


22 posted on 12/07/2016 3:39:00 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Olog-hai

It would make them uninsured only by their choice. They can pay for it like the rest of us do if they want it. I’m sure there will be an open enrollment period.


23 posted on 12/07/2016 3:39:26 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: Olog-hai

How many are illegal?


24 posted on 12/07/2016 3:47:08 PM PST by Hattie
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To: Olog-hai

30 million uninsured.

That’s a good start.

Force personal responsibility through benign neglect.


25 posted on 12/07/2016 3:55:04 PM PST by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: Olog-hai

We are losing the war on LANGUAGE.

The MSM/Left/Commies have equated INSURANCE with HEALTHCARE or TREATMENT.

We need to take back the language. No one without money would ever be turned away needing treatment.

Those people, however, many not have INSURANCE.

I pay $500/mo for a family of 4 for INSURANCE. I have a $12,000 deductible for that.

Obamacare has wrecked my wallet.


26 posted on 12/07/2016 3:57:45 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Drain the swamp. Build the wall. Open the Pizzagate. I refuse to inhabit any safe space.)
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To: Olog-hai

How many lost their insurance BECAUSE of Obamacare?

We will need that number to flaunt during the upcoming repeal.

How many plans were cancelled? How many lost plans that they liked?


27 posted on 12/07/2016 3:58:01 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: Olog-hai

Probably 30 million illegals. Deport them and voila, no more uninsured.


28 posted on 12/07/2016 4:02:44 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

No one has insurance that is on obamacare now. The monthly cost and the HUGE deductible means you pay until you are broke. Assuming you can pay as you lost your full time job and the 29/hr one isn’t paying all the bills.


29 posted on 12/07/2016 4:05:10 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: Olog-hai

In reality, they are uninsured now. $5K deductibles? This gets paid by those ‘insured’ people first. It’s almost funny when O-bots have it explained to them what a ‘deductible’ is and they are on the hook for this amount. It saddens me when hard-working American patriots are forced onto this dreck. Insurance rates have only risen and insurance choices have only been dramatically reduced under Zero.

Repeal Obamacare ASAP.


30 posted on 12/07/2016 4:09:01 PM PST by bigredkitty1 (March 5, 2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: Olog-hai

Let the insurance companies start throwing out how they could cover citizens at what costs with prexisting condition offers.


31 posted on 12/07/2016 4:12:19 PM PST by jetson
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To: Olog-hai

So? It is not the federal government’s job to take care of people or see after their needs just because they are there.

Maybe if those on the left had ever bothered to amend the Constitution to give it such powers, but they didn’t because they didn’t need no stinkin’Constitution! Arbitrary-government loving scum!


32 posted on 12/07/2016 4:16:37 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Olog-hai

Being insured does not mean you are going to be cured. It doesn’t guarantee anything except the IRS/Feds getting access to your medical problems.


33 posted on 12/07/2016 4:17:22 PM PST by Dallas59 (Only a fool stumbles on things behind him.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

with the greater freedom and lessened regulatory burdens under trump plans, more doctors can afford to be part of charity programs for those of documented poverty.

this is holistic. this isn’t just about a trumpcare, this is about a trump view of government.


34 posted on 12/07/2016 4:17:26 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: bigredkitty1

yeah... obamacare has become a bunch of catastrophic plans.


35 posted on 12/07/2016 4:18:47 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Olog-hai

Return to totally market medicine and insurance and those who want insurance can get it at much cheaper rates because they don’t have to pay for all the government requirements and don’t have to provide the livelihood for all those bureaucrats. Medicine itself will be much cheaper for the same reasons. Throw in real tort reform and insurance wouldn’t even be needed for many or most. Pre existing conditions will be cared for more efficiently and cheaper, much cheaper for the whole system. Before the government got totally involved there was always a good chance that a serious or preexisting malady would get cared for by charity organizations and churches.


36 posted on 12/07/2016 4:32:21 PM PST by arthurus (Mrs Clinton is The Great Conniver.)
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Even With Obamacare, 29 Million People Are Uninsured:

Here’s Why ...
www.thefiscaltimes.com/.../Even-Obamacare-29-Million-People-Are-Uninsured-Here-...

May 10, 2016 - An estimated 20 million people have gained insurance since health care reform was signed into law in 2010, but in the six years since, a significant group of Americans remain uninsured.

Estimates vary, but as many as 29 million Americans – about one in 10 – lack coverage.


37 posted on 12/07/2016 4:33:45 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Hey, whining losers,Trump will just go ahead & make things better for us without you!!!!")
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To: madison10

Insurance is NOT the goal in a rational society. Medical care is. Lack of insurance is NOT lack of medical care. Requiring Insurance is like requiring that everyone buy IPods.


38 posted on 12/07/2016 4:34:11 PM PST by arthurus (Mrs Clinton is The Great Conniver.)
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To: Olog-hai
Trump has said he would not simply repeal so that's not going to happen.

Before 0bamacare, some 30 million were uninsured, allegedly.
With 0bamacare, even more people are uninsured, it's more expensive and extremely onerous.
Now we'll be back to the 30M uninsured, plus those who lost their original insurance in the process.
Considering how expensive this 0bamacare debacle has been, it would have been much cheaper to simply buy basic insurance for each of those 30M

39 posted on 12/07/2016 4:34:43 PM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: arthurus

Problem is there are a lot of state requirements for health insurance. Somebody like California will keep all the burdens on insurers extremely high and then the evening news will say it’s Trump’s fault when Californians can’t afford health insurance.


40 posted on 12/07/2016 4:36:22 PM PST by JediJones (We must deport all liberals until we can figure out what the hell is going on.)
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