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The Democrats’ real strategy in launching recounts
American Thinker ^ | November 27, 2016 | Richard Baehr

Posted on 11/27/2016 4:19:20 AM PST by NYer

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To: OttawaFreeper
I recall part of the Franken recount involving the classic "box of ballots found in a car trunk." More recently, it was discovered that nearly 400 felons voted illegally in that election, a greater number than Franken's final margin of victory (and it is highly likely that few if any voted for Norm Coleman, his Republican challenger).

I remain highly skeptical of ANY recount requested by a democrat since they ALWAYS end up winning them, usually by the incremental "count until we win" process. They are either the luckiest people on Earth, or conniving cheats.

41 posted on 11/27/2016 5:03:51 AM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Helicondelta

Depression: #January21,2017

Acceptance: #ImWithHer2020!


42 posted on 11/27/2016 5:04:03 AM PST by Kozak (ALLAH AKBAR = HEIL HITLER)
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To: NYer

Trump has already gone on record as saying the election process is rigged. If this happens this will just confirm all that he’s saying.


43 posted on 11/27/2016 5:10:12 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: Kozak

“Acceptance: #ImWithHer2020”

With her medical problems, Hillary won’t last that long.

But hey...if dead Democrats can vote...why can’t dead Democrat candidates run for office?


44 posted on 11/27/2016 5:11:11 AM PST by moovova
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To: originalbuckeye

I just did some further reading on the subject. It does not suggest “a ballot box found in the trunk” theory, but interestingly enough, it does mention among other things that the number of felons who were permitted to vote (but certainly should not have been) may have very well given Franken his margin of victory alone.

My original point was that the Franken/Coleman race was an extremely close one (as opposed to 20,000 to 27,000 vote margin for Trump in WI, 10000 in MI, and nearly 70000 in PA) and that people have to be careful when making comparisons, even though of course, we all should be vigilant of potential nonsense going on with this latest charade from Stein (and possibly from Clinton/Soros as well).

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2010/07/20/al-franken-may-have-won-his-senate-seat-through-voter-fraud


45 posted on 11/27/2016 5:12:58 AM PST by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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To: NYer

I was just thinking about that Nov 14 meeting, earlier this morning.


46 posted on 11/27/2016 5:13:11 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow!)
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To: Democrat_media

Trump knows far more than you are implying he does. He just gave her a mile of rope to hang herself with with the “good people” comment in that CBS interview. Now that her campaign is actively tied to Stein’s efforts, he has every right and duty to let the letter of the law do its own work for We the People.

He will be in command and the appropriate agencies will be directed to finally do their job and indict her on the thousands of e-mails that each carries a separate indictable count. By the way, she has already admitted doing it and intent carries no weight whatsoever.


47 posted on 11/27/2016 5:13:15 AM PST by mazda77
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To: NYer

So if the recounts are not finished by the deadline - do they quit the counting?

I think not.

And eventually the recounts will establish and confirm that Trump did indeed win over the 270 electoral votes needed.

And the whole thing will be a vanity of vanities - as Solomon would say..........


48 posted on 11/27/2016 5:14:23 AM PST by Arlis
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To: NYer

PA can’t be done without a court fight. This article is null and void.


49 posted on 11/27/2016 5:15:19 AM PST by Snowybear
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine; Jim Noble
Technically, you are absolutely correct. However, the plain meaning of words, even the words in the constitution, are not controlling. If no candidate gets 270 votes, and congress wants to take on the election for itself, it will, and there is noting anybody could do about it.

Congress has already decided that a dual citizen at birth can also be a natural born citizen. It also declared in S.Res 511 for McCain, that the words "shall be considered as" are words of definition rather than words of pretend (legal fiction).

I doubt that the recounts will get to the point of states failing to send electoral ballots to Congress, but if that does become the case, the only thing controlling is the whim of Congress. The US is still a banana republic.

50 posted on 11/27/2016 5:15:33 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: MCF
Trump now knows that Soros must be destroyed.

I have the feeling that in the next four years, a good number of the marxist, 'RAT, America-haters will join the ranks of the desaparecidos.

51 posted on 11/27/2016 5:17:21 AM PST by Salvey
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To: Bulwinkle

The petitioner pays the cost of the recount. In Wisconsin this was estimated at $1.1M initially. I have not seen the estimates for OH or MI, but should be higher. The last I saw, Stein had raised $5.5M and counting, for this effort, via online appeals that contain fine print indicating that any funds beyond that actually used in the recount(s) would be used for election accuracy/transparency advocacy in general. In other words a slush fund to give Jill Stein a platform into the future.

So, my suggestion for Wisconsin AG Brad Schimel is - stick a few crowbars in the procedural gearbox (the left does this all the time and are experts at it - take a few pages from their play book) and make the costs of the mechanics of the recount astronomically high (hire the most expensive accounting and legal consultants, etc.) to burn as much of Jill Stein’s slush fund as possible. Just means less of her noise to put up with next year, and the year after.


52 posted on 11/27/2016 5:25:11 AM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: NYer

There is something wrong with Baehr’s theory that the Dems want only to delegitimize the election by having Trump “selected”. Even if the recounts are too late, they would still, if Baerh is right in saying that the recounts won’t swing to the states to Clinton, eventually show that Trump was the winner, anyway. I don’t see how that would delegitimize anything.

They would not be pouring all of this money in for merely a moral victory. They claimed that G. W. Bush was “selected” but he still won reelection four years later.


53 posted on 11/27/2016 5:25:38 AM PST by djpg
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To: NYer

Personally I feel that all this fundraising will help fill the coffers for Chelsea’s imminent run since they can no longer go to the Clinton foundation and certainly not to the Middle East leaders. Just a theory...


54 posted on 11/27/2016 5:26:38 AM PST by connyankee (#MAGABEGINS)
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To: NYer
Has anyone asked, "What should the Republican party be doing or saying about the Clinton/Stein demand for recounts?"

Am I wrong to say that the Republican party has been essentially silent about the recount demands? Many who write on FR have articulated a number of motives for the recount but I don't hear any similar criticisms coming from the RNC.

What's the right strategy for the Republican party in dealing with these recount demands? Silence? Token and passive criticism? A serious and sustained attach on the motives of Clinton, Stein and Demoncrats.

55 posted on 11/27/2016 5:27:58 AM PST by JesusIsLord
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To: philippa

Do you mean EVERY state legislature, or just some based on state law? (of course we only, possibly, need the three). Where is this codified? Federal law, state law?


56 posted on 11/27/2016 5:28:52 AM PST by lafroste (Look at my profile page. Thanks.)
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To: Jim Noble

“The President is elected by a majority, not of possible electors (270), but by a majority of electors ACTUALLY APPOINTED (it says that, right in Article II and again in Amendment XII).”

Clinton will want the court to decide that argument. Perhaps another reason why they didn’t want Scalia around.


57 posted on 11/27/2016 5:32:32 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: noiseman

These recounts are reminding me of stories told by relatives of mine, long dead now, about election politics in the Democratic precincts of Pittsburgh in the 1930’s. Those pols knew how to steal an election.


58 posted on 11/27/2016 5:34:36 AM PST by Ciexyz (After eight years of Obama, I can't afford to buy nothin'.)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

In WI, $1.1 million is the filing fee. Counties are in the process of estimating how much it will cost to do the recount-it will easily surpass $1 million. That additional cost is borne by the petitioner, AKA Stein. On top of that are the lawyer’s fees, also borne by the petitioner (unless they are Democrat hacks doing pro bono work).

She probably has enough money for a WI recount, but not enough to do MI and PA, as well. The fund raising will continue.


59 posted on 11/27/2016 5:44:13 AM PST by randita (PLEASE STOP ALL THE WORTHLESS VANITIES!)
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To: moovova

I am in PA. If our votes, the ones from PA are defranchised, I will march on WAsh. DC. The left cannot overturn 60+000 votes by causing the count to be late.

I hope they have lots of porta[potties in DC because I am old, almost 80,and being pissed off will not help my already physical difficulties with same.


60 posted on 11/27/2016 5:44:17 AM PST by Bodega (elective, therapeutic abortion sequelae)
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