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2016 ended up as a typical low turnout Republican unity win in many ways. The total vote count now is just under 120 million, though more votes will trickle in. Trump will lose the popular vote to Clinton by a tiny bit, but more significantly, he will not come close to either of Barack Obama's totals. In fact, and read this carefully, Trump will receive a lower percentage of registered voters than either Mitt Romney or John McCain, and may even fall shy of Mitt's raw total.

Trump praise is coming, I promise, but first some more hard math:

Trump underperformed Richard Burr in NC, Marco Rubio in Florida, Ron Johnson in Wisconsin, Pat Toomey in Pennsylvania, and Johnny Isakson in Georgia. Trump way underpolled anti-Trumper Rob Portman in Ohio, winning Ohio by 9 (which is amazing), while Portman won by almost twice that.

Wisconsin's Republican machine of Scott Walker, Paul Ryan, Johnson, and even Reince Preibus was instrumental in Trump winning Wisky. Trump's most gushing comments in his victory speech were in fact reserved for Preibus. It was stunning. So much for being a wrecking ball to the establishment.

So what does all this tell us? First, it tells us that Trump needed the normal Republican turnout as much as normal Republicans needed Trump. This is not a bad thing, and is exactly what those of us in the "reluctant Trump" camp always maintained. It was Trump's propensity to run harder against his own party than against Hillary, that bothered us in the first place. Our fates were always tied together, as they always are in general elections. It is what it is.

Trump's continued attacks on Ryan, Ted Cruz, and John Kasich, long after the primaries ended, was just as morally reprehensible as what Mitch McConnell, Haley Barbour, and Thad Cochran pulled in Mississippi against Chris McDaniel. And it had the possibility of being far more devastating, given that it happened in the general election for president.

The Turning Point

But to Trump's credit, and to that of Mike Pence, Preibus, Cruz, Ryan and even the repugnant McConnell, they all

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1 posted on 11/10/2016 9:17:02 AM PST by conservative98
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31 posted on 11/10/2016 10:00:44 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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Regarding this historic Trump win:

Read it and weep Eddie!

“What these two electoral facts mean together is that Republicans have more dominance in state legislatures than at any time since the end of the Civil War”.

“The landslide is clear and complete. President Trump will have a Congress to implement his agenda; a Department of Justice that can now actually investigate the vast, corrupt sludge left by Obama and Hillary; a defeated establishment media whose hissing threats Trump can shrug off and even turn back on them; and state governments that can work hand in hand with him to reform American government and politics”.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/11/the_trump_landslide.html

Since the Civil War! “The landslide is clear and complete”.


34 posted on 11/10/2016 10:03:42 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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C. Edmund Wright?

See wrong.


37 posted on 11/10/2016 10:07:10 AM PST by Vision Thing (You see the depths of my heart, and You love me the same...)
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C. Edmund Wright bends the knee, still doesn’t feel all that genuine. As someone who had tussles with him, I’m still not all that impressed with him.

In my past 17 years here, I’ve noticed that many Freepers who use their full name as a handle turn out to be self-promoting narcissists. (Jim Rob being the exception that proves the rule, of course.)


39 posted on 11/10/2016 10:20:24 AM PST by proust (Trump / Pence 2016!)
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To: conservative98; C. Edmund Wright
Trump's continued attacks on Ryan, Ted Cruz, and John Kasich, long after the primaries ended, was just as morally reprehensible as what Mitch McConnell, Haley Barbour, and Thad Cochran pulled in Mississippi against Chris McDaniel.

What planet has this ignorant, arrogant a$$hole been on for the past four months?

42 posted on 11/10/2016 10:27:44 AM PST by meadsjn
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typical low turnout Republican unity win ... Trump underperformed ... Pat Toomey in Pennsylvania

This will prove to be a flatly false narrative as a look at what happened in Pennsylvania will demonstrate.

It may be true that many establishment Republicans did not vote for Trump, but Trump did not underperform Toomey in PA. Trump had 2,912,941 votes compared to 2,893,833 for Toomey.

What's more interesting to me about PA is that Trump's vote total exceeded Obama's 2012 total (2,990,274) by 77,333 and exceeded Romney's 2012 total (2,680,434) by a whopping 232,507, or 8.6%.

What also may be a false narrative is that Clinton failed to turn out the Obama coalition. She actually had more votes in Philadelphia (560,542) than Obama did in 2012 (557,024). She had more more than 10% more votes than Obama's 2012 total (251,063 for Clinton to 227,561 for Obama) in Montogomery County outside of Philadelphia. There Trump underperformed Romney (169,903 for Romney to 160,803). It appears the establishment Republicans of Montgomery County who favored Romney would not vote for Trump. In Allegheny County, which includes Pittsburgh, once again Clinton got more votes than Obama (363017 for Clinton to 348151 for Obama) and Trump underperformed Romney (257488 for Trump to 259,304 to Romney).

So Clinton beat Obama's 2012 vote totals in big Democrat centers, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and Montgomery County, yet statewide she had 145,569, or nearly 5%, votes less than Obama in 2012. For her statewide totals to be less than Obama's while outperforming Obama in the traditionally big Democrat vote centers, Trump had to have converted a significant number of 2012 Obama voters into 2016 Trump voters in the outlying counties. Not only did Trump achieve this, he increased Republican and independent voter turnout for himself. In Lancaster County, a traditionally stalwart Republican County (and where I live), Trump outperformed Romney by 6% (137145 for Trump to 129364 for Romney). I suspect that some of that 6% increase was from the deplorables I stood in line with and who probably did not vote for Romney in 2012.

According to my wife, one of the poll workers at our voting location told her the Amish turnout was triple what they saw in the last election. So the Trump billboards with the buggy pictures seemed to have paid off, as did the calls for drivers to help get the Amish to the polls.

The bottom line is that Trump won Pennsylvania because he increased turnout in the counties outside the big population centers while he also captured the votes of some of the 2012 Obama voters. This most definitely was not a low turnout vote in Pennsylvania.

43 posted on 11/10/2016 10:28:46 AM PST by Gee Wally
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Lying and attacking Trump.
*What an idiot this guy is.*

Really, what else can, or should, one say?

45 posted on 11/10/2016 10:32:00 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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C. Edmund Wright is the epitome of ‘do you know who I am’. He has three houses in case no one knows.. He said so...


61 posted on 11/10/2016 3:30:50 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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