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Major Bust in Transnational IRS Phone Scam
NBC Bay Area ^ | 10/27 | Kevin Nious and Stephen Stock

Posted on 10/27/2016 7:13:55 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway
My Dad was a CPA. He told me that he always filed extensions until they ran out.

And then he said he wouldn't pay until he received the third angry letter from the IRS.

I only had to do that once. One year, between my wife and myself, we under withheld and didn't have the moola come April. By the time the third angry letter came, I had the money though.

21 posted on 10/27/2016 7:40:29 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: nickcarraway

The first clue is that the Caller says he is from the IRS.

The IRS never says they are the “IRS”, they say they are the Internal Revenue Service.


22 posted on 10/27/2016 7:44:00 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative ( Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

We called back twice from a phone in a conference room . The first guy was clealy from India. We wasted his time with bad info and then told him Vishnu(Hindu god) was gayer than Brian Boitano. Next guy was a Muslim and we did the same routine and told him Mohammad was a goat fxxker and married a six year old girl and that his praying position was just an invitation to be mounted. Priceless invectives from the other side.


23 posted on 10/27/2016 7:45:44 PM PDT by ChiefJayStrongbow
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To: Elderberry

If you don’t want to get audited extensions are the only way to go. My accountant has always recommended that I pay what I owe up front and then take extensions.

The IRS makes up a list of who they are going to audit. Let them go through the list. Let them meet their quota. Then file your return.

It’s important that you pay what you owe by April 15.


24 posted on 10/27/2016 7:47:30 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Rome2000

You might try this......after you got them thinking you’re gonna send money....say,” Oops I gotta go to my day job....telephone fraud unit of the FBI.


25 posted on 10/27/2016 7:51:27 PM PDT by Liz (Experience is a dear teacher, but fools will learn at no other. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: ladyjane
It’s important that you pay what you owe by April 15.

It is important to File by the deadline and claim all of your income.

As long as you file on time, they won't hit you with a penalty. They will charge you with interest until you pay.

26 posted on 10/27/2016 7:52:41 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: justlurking

Most of the scam complaints go to the FTC, which is supposed to enforce the ‘Do Not Call’ list but does nothing. Some of these complaints ended up with the IRS, which does care, and which pushed the DoJ to action. If it was up to the FTC, nothing would ever have been done.


27 posted on 10/27/2016 7:53:15 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: nickcarraway

Now if they can just bust those people that keep calling me wanting lower my credit card interest rates or buy an extended car warranty.


28 posted on 10/27/2016 7:55:02 PM PDT by slouper (LWRC SPR 5.56)
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To: nickcarraway

I got this call several times. It went to a recording from a “law firm” who explained this and that.

Only one time I got a real person and I asked them where in the eff they were calling from. It went CLICK and that was that.


29 posted on 10/27/2016 7:58:31 PM PDT by crz
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and the amount of money lost is in the hundreds of millions.

I must be in the wrong business. We got called about this scam and roped them into a conversation. They eventually hung up. They kept calling back periodically until one day my wife took the call and, acting tearfully, screamed; call the police, my God there's so much blood.... then hung up. Haven't been called by those miscreants since.

30 posted on 10/27/2016 8:03:59 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789)
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To: Elderberry

The problem is - if you file on time you get evaluated for an audit. If you happen to have a complex return and have losses you will be on their hit list.

Who wants to deal with that? I don’t. Most of the IRS people are nice but I don’t have the time to socialize with them.

I’ve been audited many times. Never had to pay anything more, in fact, I got refunds for over paying. Since my CPA told me to get extensions, I haven’t been audited since.


31 posted on 10/27/2016 8:05:56 PM PDT by ladyjane
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I should have said; file your tax return Or file your request for an extension by the deadline.

The point I was trying to make is;

You had said It’s important that you pay what you owe by April 15.

And I replied: As long as you file on time, they won't hit you with a penalty. They will charge you with interest until you pay.

File meaning; tax return or request for an extension.

32 posted on 10/27/2016 8:20:57 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: nickcarraway

Fraud like this is a crime as the IRS hates competition!!!


33 posted on 10/27/2016 8:23:54 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: nickcarraway
Here's a good way to deal with these scammers. (some strong language).
34 posted on 10/27/2016 8:24:22 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Elderberry

I have call block on our Comcast line.

I use NoMoRobo which intercepts most of the crap that gets through Comcast.

My third barrier is entering numbers into our Panasonic cordless phone. Lately, I’ve taken to blocking entire area codes where we don’t know anybody or area code + prefix if I don’t want to block the entire area code. You will find a lot of the junk callers use numbers that don’t conform to the North American Numbering Plan and you can block big swaths of numbers that way, too.

The ringer is off on the four handsets and only on for the base station for unknown calls. The handset ringers are on for calls from family and close friends.

As a result, we get 2 or 3 junk calls per week coming through at most.

Every Saturday I spent 15 minutes updating the blocked numbers. It’s a pain having to do this, but a small price to pay to keep the bastards out of our house.

It took a while to set up this multi-layer defensive perimeter, but it is almost 100% effective.


35 posted on 10/27/2016 8:28:37 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: nickcarraway

I’ve been called nearly a dozen times, including several this month (10/2016). There a lot more rats out there who still need to be trapped.


36 posted on 10/27/2016 8:39:56 PM PDT by XHogPilot
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To: Elderberry

Oh yes, you must pay what you owe on time. That’s a given. Once you pay all you owe they have little interest in you - especially if you’re not on their hit list.

They don’t want to take up their time doing an audit if it won’t yield any results. They want to go after the ones who owe money and penalties. They have quotas - even though they say they don’t have them.


37 posted on 10/27/2016 8:50:33 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: nickcarraway

One of our clients at the law firm where I work got one of these calls. The creep who called her threatened to have her arrested if she didn’t pay a certain amount of money. He became verbally abusive when she insisted on calling her attorney before handing over any money. She was almost in tears when she called us. My boss spent several minutes calming her down and reassuring her that the call was a scam.


38 posted on 10/27/2016 8:54:11 PM PDT by Rainbow Rising (This year my birthday falls on Election Day. A Hillary defeat would be the best present ever!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

My wife is a tax CPA. She laughs every time she gets it.


39 posted on 10/27/2016 8:54:23 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: nickcarraway

So when is somebody going to bust the IRS, Justus department, bongo, klingoons, DNC etc?


40 posted on 10/27/2016 8:54:53 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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