Labor to Young Americans: Work Less, Achieve Less

Townhall.com ^ | October 5, 2016 | Terry Jeffrey

[Paladin2]

Some people are more efficient than others. Why not pay for output rather than inputs?

[sparklite2]

Because you would be putting a salaried person in the position of controlling your labor cost by working any overtime they please.

[thirst4truth]

So when my daughter who is on salary travels for work, left this morning on a 7am flight and won't be back until 6 or 7 tonight then she is working overtime? What hours does the government consider working, the commute to the airport, is she working then? the one hour she is waiting for the plane due to the government wanting us to arrive an hour before boarding, is that work? Then sitting on the plane, catching a taxi, checking into her hotel, if she is overnighting it, all work for the company? Who the hell is going to figure all this out?

What the f**k is government doing dictating pay, hours and what salaried employees are willing to do for their employer? The Labor department, the federal workers that make more in retirement than most citizens make working, decide what the relationship should be between two free people that enter into a work contract, they want to shove themselves into the middle of that, assholes all of them.

[roadcat]

Some people are more efficient than others.

Long ago on a crew I managed, one technician would not work one minute past quitting time. We'd be at a remote site, needed another ten minutes to finish, but he wanted to come back on a weekend and get overtime including travel. When I protested, he would simply throw his tool bag down and leave. Another worker would do the job for me. The first guy would use up all his sick time on Mondays, consistently, and do other things to work less while getting more overtime. He told me I was foolish for wanting more productivity and not using the system. He was union, nice otherwise, and did nothing to merit being fired.

Years later, I began to realize he was the smart one and was being efficient about acquiring more pay.

[Paladin2]

I’ve always lived below my means and highly value my own short time on Erf. Working makes you a gov’t tax slave. I don’t remember regretting not spending more time at work even though it was largely enjoyable.

[RoadGumby]

Run your own business with him as an employee and see if you still call him ‘smart’, or if you have no reason to fire him.

[Buckeye McFrog]

Yet regulators at the U.S. Department of Labor think it is their business to monitor and control how many hours Americans like this work.

Actually that's EXACTLY the mission given to them by law, when they were established in 1913. A tiger is a tiger.

[henkster]

I’m wondering how this is going to affect churches. We have two youth pastors; one is part time, the other is full time but it isn’t an exorbitant salary by any measure and is under the Federal floor. Each one is the leader of a week long summer mission trip for the church youth. This year the full-time high school pastor was at the church at 3:30 a.m. Sunday to leave on the trip and did not return until 8:30 p.m. the following Saturday.

My calculation is that the church would owe him for 121.5 hours of overtime in that pay period. Let’s just say this isn’t in the church’s business plan.

[LouAvul]

So, the paragon in the article works 10 hours a day and then comes home to walk 3 miles then gets ready for bed? Who's taking care of the children? Does she have children?

If she has children, they're being neglected. Where does the responsibility of having a normal family life enter in? Or, are our globalist fascist masters (Jorge Busho, O'Dummy, et al) going to deny us that?

And, if wage earners have children, are they going to be required to earn less as well? To require our children to similarly live on less?

And, in the end, will these (above mentioned) globalist pigs also be living on less?

[MeganC]

I get it.

The regulation makes sense if you think of someone making $15 an hour and working straight time for 60 hours - they’d make about $900.

If the minimum wage is $15 and if employers can circumvent it by calling someone “salaried” just so they can pay them less than minimum wage then that’s evading the minimum wage law for many states.

Since the Fedgov has to have one rule for all fifty states then it makes sense to have the effective minimum wage for a salaried employee who works 60 hours a week to be at least equal to $15 an hour.

[Organic Panic]

Don’t forget the obamacare mandates. Package all these Obamandates and it sounds great. Free time off. Free college. Free health care. Work when and only when you want. No overtime...

That is just a way to say, you’re fired. Even if you want to work overtime and extra hours. This will have the opposite effect. The entry level or low level professionals will never advance and the old timers will never be challenged by new talent. Just another long lasting effect of Obamanation. Enjoy the ride Millenials. If you vote for Clinton it’s just 8 more years, and more likely, forever Obamanation.

[Kaslin]

Excellent point.

[Kaslin]

Most businesses know how to get around paying increased minimum wages. Cutting the hours is another one.

[Organic Panic]

"Under this rule, employers will have a renewed monetary incentive to support work-life balance," said the summary. "Many workers will put in fewer hours without seeing a reduction in pay, giving them more time to spend with their families and in their personal pursuits."

And all you little robots will react exactly the way we social overseers at the DOL say you will. And with the wonders of Obamacare...

“You want to be a photographer or a writer or a musician, whatever -- an artist, you want to be self-employed, if you want to start a business, you want to change jobs, you no longer are prohibited from doing that because you can’t have access to health care, especially because you do not want to put your family at risk,”-Nasty Pelosi

[Buckeye McFrog]

IMO this regulation is aimed primarily at the retail industry which would put people on salary and give them a “manager” title, but work them 60-80 hours per week stocking freight and ringing cash registers.

[Rusty0604]

How much time someone spends with family is their business, not the government’s.

[Rusty0604]

Typical union mentality.

[Buckeye McFrog]

How much time someone spends with family is their business, not the government’s.

As I pointed out in my previous post, the government MADE it their business when they passed the law establishing DOL in 1913. And it's been doing exactly that for over a century. Your argument should be to repeal the law and to abolish that agency.

[Rusty0604]

And fast food.