AP-NORC Poll: Half of Trump backers don't trust vote count

Associated Press ^ | Oct 1, 2016 2:02 AM EDT | Jonathan Lemire and Emily Swanson

[Olog-hai]

And where does AP and/or NORC find any Trump supporters that trust them to even take their poll?

[bigbob]

About 99% should doubt the polls that we are constantly seeing posted on FR.

[BRL]

Now they say there is no evidence of widespread problem.... How about they discuss the narrowspread aspect of this. In other words they are acknowledging that it is a problem just not a big one.

[JBW1949]

I haven’t trusted the vote count for several past elections...No change this time either...

[HiTech RedNeck]

Excellent reasons for such skepticism.

[Fiddlstix]

DemocRAT vote fraud will be wide spread. Count on it!

[Olog-hai]

They are using argumentum ad verecundiam by citing a “a Loyola Law School professor” too. And that’s aside from not naming said professor.

[GSWarrior]

The non-Trump supporters who hate Hillary don’t trust the vote counts either.

[timestax]

ping

[Dilbert San Diego]

A study conducted by a Loyola Law School professor found that out of 1 billion votes cast in all American elections between 2000 and 2014, there were only 31 known cases of impersonation fraud. …

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What they are missing is that some obvious cases of vote fraud are never investigated, so they are not “officially” noted as such.

For example, the Philadelphia precincts in which more votes were cast than the number of registered voters in such precincts. Or the fact that some, maybe the same, Philadephia precincts had zero votes for Romney. We know liberals expect the black vote to go overwhelmingly for a Democrat, but it’s definitely unrealistic that a Republican would get exactly zero votes in a heavily Democrat or black area.

Just because a case is not prosecuted or investigated, doesn’t mean that there wasn’t voter fraud occurring.

[HiTech RedNeck]

She’s Berned a lot of Democrats, not just Republicans.

[nhwingut]

Did AP miss the part where Hillary/DNC stole the election from Bernie? It was kind of big news, if I remember correctly. Not some conspiracy.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Yep... winked-at “impossible” statistics.

[HiTech RedNeck]

In fact, vigorously publicizing such lists would probably be of help here.

[Ancesthntr]

“Only about a third of Republicans say they have a great deal or quite a bit of confidence that votes in this year’s election will be counted fairly,”

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Count a third of Republicans as hopelessly naive, and blind to what the Dems have been doing for well over 100 years.

[bunster]

Did you all notice today that Feds are admitting that there is evidence of “attempted” vote roll hacking in 20+ states.

Maybe they are setting up for a challenge if Hillary does not win?

[stylin19a]

None of his 31 contain this from Wisc - about Milwaukee vote fraud in 2004:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122576113489495571

very misleading - from the study:

"(Note: these allegations do not include other forms of fraud not prevented by a requirement to show ID at the polls, including absentee ballot fraud, vote buying, vote coercion, fraud in the tallying process, voter registration fraud, double voting, voting by nonresidents, voting by noncitizens, voting by persons disenfranchised by conviction, or fraud in the petitioning process.)"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/08/06/a-comprehensive-investigation-of-voter-impersonation-finds-31-credible-incidents-out-of-one-billion-ballots-cast/

[Ancesthntr]

” Just because a case is not prosecuted or investigated, doesn’t mean that there wasn’t voter fraud occurring.”

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That is exactly what they are counting on. Most people are pretty idealistic, and believe what they were taught in school and hear on the news media, which is that we hold fair elections in this country. You have to bat people over the head with multiple cases for them to truly believe that a significant number of people in this country are crooked, and will do literally anything to get what they want, honesty be damned. In addition to that, you have the problem of roughly half of the people who are actively trying to ridicule the very idea of voter fraud, obviously because they are Democrats and just wish to see their side win no matter how it is done.