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1 posted on 09/27/2016 10:27:56 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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Shut your trap, Pence.


32 posted on 09/27/2016 10:40:05 AM PDT by pissant ((Deport 'em all))
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Should have had Huckabee as the VP.


33 posted on 09/27/2016 10:40:05 AM PDT by Democrats hate too much
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“Follow the science” means just what, buster, anyhow?

I think if we really DID follow it, we’d find over half of it as it exists today is just bunk.

Maybe Pence is being crazy like a fox here and is setting up an expose’. Dunno.

But to a first order of approximation, we can’t even pin anything in worldwide climate upon AGW effects. It’s all speculation.


37 posted on 09/27/2016 10:40:52 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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Pence is an idiot.


40 posted on 09/27/2016 10:41:27 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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Another glass, Governor?


41 posted on 09/27/2016 10:41:29 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Is this a joke? Psycops


43 posted on 09/27/2016 10:41:38 AM PDT by sagar
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I wonder if Pence is pushing for Trump not to bring up Juanita Broaddrick and all that. I hope Pence is not... I’m really hoping Pence is not a weak Establishment person... Maybe Pence is doing this in prep for the VP debate? If so, ok.


45 posted on 09/27/2016 10:42:11 AM PDT by Democrats hate too much
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I see this as a way to see what the American People think before the ‘team’ comes out with what they want...


47 posted on 09/27/2016 10:43:14 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence; Trump/Pence; Trump/Pence 100%)
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I feel like Pence was a mistake. Would like to see VPs changed at some point before 2024 when a strong independent lover of constitutionally limited government will be needed to take over and slash the feds by 80%+.


50 posted on 09/27/2016 10:44:29 AM PDT by Jim W N
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Pence is making me a little tense.


51 posted on 09/27/2016 10:45:27 AM PDT by Leep (Just say no to half dead hillary and wrong lane kaine!)
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I feel like Pence was a mistake. Would like to see VPs changed at some point before 2024 when a strong independent lover of constitutionally limited government will be needed to take over and slash the feds by 80%+.


52 posted on 09/27/2016 10:45:46 AM PDT by Jim W N
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Oh good grief! I have always liked Pence, and had great hopes for the guy, but if he believes the man-made global cooling crap, then he is off my list for president. We had better be preparing for some very cold weather coming down the road! I’m glad Trump will be in charge!


54 posted on 09/27/2016 10:47:19 AM PDT by sneakers
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What is “Climate change”? What criteria is then assessed by current and past empirical data. We will need full and complete elements of “Climate Change” carefully listed and thus supported or the entire proposition is a smiling pile of poop.I think it is a smiling pile of poop because the fundamental elements of the Proposition have never been defined. EVER! It cannot be “global warming” because the earth is absolutely not warming. That is why they reconfigured with the nebulous and undefined “climate Change” charade which is a total fraud. They want to take your stuff and make you live like an African tribe man or women. It is absolutely true. We need to get this crap out of our schools like a deadly virus!!


56 posted on 09/27/2016 10:48:07 AM PDT by WENDLE (Trump win's the debate!! Hillary pushy!!)
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I’m still voting for Pence.


57 posted on 09/27/2016 10:50:43 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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58 posted on 09/27/2016 10:52:29 AM PDT by GraceG (Only a fool works hard in an environment where hard work is not appreciated...)
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The ocean sea level was lower, creating land bridges from Asia to Alaska, and from mainland Europe to Great Britain.

Those land bridges afforded migrations to populate the regions.

Those ocean level rises and drops, were due to “climate change” known as Ice Ages.

Those climate change events, took place long before human activity could have made any impact.

Likewise Meteors, volcanic eruptions are felt to have impacted weather, etc. Both non-human.

It is arrogance of the highest order, to presume human activity can be controlled to avoid/offset major climate changes and their impacts.

Who is going to steer earth to avoid asteroids? Who is going to control the impact of a volcanic eruption?


59 posted on 09/27/2016 10:53:42 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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Worst thing I’d heard about him yet. I think his crime is ignorance rather than ill will. Get him some nice Mark Steyn books.


62 posted on 09/27/2016 10:55:45 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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For all of the folks jumping in to call out Pence, on this, why not take a listen to what he actually said...vs what some lefty site (ap) says for him?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/27/politics/mike-pence-donald-trump-climate-change-trade/index.html


63 posted on 09/27/2016 10:56:43 AM PDT by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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How many people on Earth when last Ice Age ended?

How could we have melting with so few people?


65 posted on 09/27/2016 10:58:31 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er (luke 6:38)
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To a certain degree, they are both correct. Pense is talking about the undeniable fact that increased CO2 levels will have an impact on climate - albeit a very small (and most likely beneficial) one. Trump has always stated that the large, catastrophic, prediction was bogus.

Continue reading to find out how the theory of catastrophic 'climate change' can be scientifically shown to be 100% WRONG.

According to the CO2 based theory of global warming/climate change, and is agreed by by scientists on both side of the argument (which some are misled to believe is consensus on the entire argument), the direct warming, caused by the additional CO2 will be minor - about 1deg C per doubling of CO2 levels. That is the '5th grade science', it's what Pense is talking about, and it's not disputed.

What is disputed, is what comes next - it's called 'climate sensitivity'.

The CO2 based theory says that, the climate is very stable, and sensative to change, and that 1deg C increase will lead to more evaporation (water vapor is a much stronger greenhouse gas than CO2), and that increased water vapor will result in more warming, more water vapor, more warming.... A VERY strong positive feedback - 'catestophic climate change!'.

So, the alarmists keep talking about record warming, assuming it is happening (which accoring to satellite records is doubtful), how do we tell if any warming is because of increased CO2, and not natural processes?

According to the theory, it's the water vapor positive feedback that is the concern, so how can we tell if we have heating caused by increased water vapor? Water vapor (level of humidity) fluctuates all the time, so how can we tell if it's increasing because of global warming? There is somewhere that it's stable - the tropical mid troposphere is constantly 100% humidity, so if global humidity was increasing, we would see the amount of water vapor incease, by moving to vertically to higher altitudes. This would be measuable by seeing increased temperatures at these higher levels - the 'Tropical Mid-troposphere Hotspot' .

Recent paper on whether Tropical Hotspot exists

If this hotspot does not exist, then it doesn't matter how hot it is, it's NOT because of increased CO2 levels!

I first became a non-believer of 'global warming' around 2000, when I read an article written by the architecht of Australia's Kyoto Protocol compiance system. And in it, he explained how the tropical hotspot was the fingerprint of CO2 based warming, and even though they had been looking for it for years, it just wasn't there.

This article is imporant because it just continues to show that CO2 based warming is impossible. If there is no Tropical Hotspot, the theory is dead wrong! But what do I know? I'm just a 'scientificly illiterate', 'denier'!
67 posted on 09/27/2016 10:59:58 AM PDT by MMaschin (The difference between strategy and tactics!)
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