U.S. Southern Baptists Repudiate Confederate Flag

Reuters ^ | 6/15/2016 | Reporting by Steve Gorman; Editing by Nick Macfie

[apocalypto]

I agree. There are sick politicians such as Nikki Haley who was giddy and gloating over trashing the flag.

[Buckeye McFrog]

It’s probably a sign that the SBC (at least at the upper ranks) has been infiltrated by SJWs (social justice warriors). A bad sign. The SBC has for years been infiltrated with feel good liberals. Not new.

It isn't just for Catholics anymore.

[Mr Rogers]

“The resolution, passed at the predominantly white convention’s annual meeting in St. Louis, calls for Southern Baptist churches to discontinue displaying the Confederate flag as a “sign of solidarity of the whole Body of Christ.”

Doesn’t sound so bad to me. I’ve never been in a SBC church that flew a Confederate flag, nor do I know why any would. Seems like it would be a good way to drive folks away from the gospel.

Nor is it binding on any SBC church. So what’s the beef?

[sport]

The proper response would be for Churches to withdraw from the Southern Baptist Convention.

[outinyellowdogcountry]

I attend a SBC church. It is different in many ways to what I have known as SB or I wouldn’t go there. But it is SBC. My pastor is mid-thirties and a very good teacher/preacher. But I feel my age in his response to some things, he is so of the millennial generation I guess. He is conservative however. So he was re-tweeting comments from the convention and one was something like ‘not one soul is worth losing over the confederate flag flying’. That sounded kind of silly to me because my pastor and all the young guns leading our church are staunchly ‘reformed’. If God elects, would the confederate flag negate God’s election? Anyway, I love my pastor and the church. The things about politics and a few issues like this make me think,really? You just thought of that? I don’t know. I’m getting old I guess. I certainly don’t have all the answers. Maybe that is what age does to us.

[sport]

For one thing, that is getting into politics. The purpose of the Church is to spread the Gospel, not dabble into politics.

[ilovesarah2012]

On the one hand I think the church needs to be out there in cultural matters, getting the biblical point of view heard. On the other hand, I think we need to concentrate on bringing people to the love of Jesus and letting Him guide them.

I also don’t want to lose the old hymns. :)

[sport]

Yes they did.And four square on the Word of God. But I suppose that was then and this is now.

[sport]

No, it is not. Us Baptists, as the evidence shows, have more than our share of them.

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

The SBC should be concerned with souls, not flags.

[Guenevere]

I’m really disgusted with this!

With ALL the fronts we are fighting, they have to bring up THIS......

Talk about divisive!........Baptist churches on practically every corner in every Southern town will now take sides!
And it won’t be pretty!
Believe me, even though the Civil War ended 151 years ago.....
....down here people still revere their ancestors and Southern traditions.

You’re going to see those flags pop up everywhere.
ScotsIrish Appalachia strongholds exist and they are a stubborn and proud people.
I can say that because I am one!

Why couldn’t this convention have been more concerned with lost souls....
.....instead of stirring dissension.

[buffaloguy]

This was an attempt by SJWs to discredit the SBC if they refused to deal with the issue. They took the correct action.

[nickcarraway]

Trump said it should be banned too.

[Mr Rogers]

“Why couldn’t this convention have been more concerned with lost souls....
.....instead of stirring dissension.”

“For one thing, that is getting into politics. The purpose of the Church is to spread the Gospel, not dabble into politics.”

A church flies a Confederate flag as a political statement. It has nothing to do with the Gospel. A Confederate flag does not draw all men to Christ. This resolution is a call to STOP being political and start focusing on Jesus.

The church does not exist to promote the southern culture of 1860 (or 2016). It exists to proclaim the Good News of forgiveness and changed lives in Jesus. Those things that hinder to Gospel need to be set aside, and the church needs to focus on proclaiming Jesus Christ as Lord - not the Confederacy!

[StoneWall Brigade]

Additional Dixie Ping

[Wallace T.]

A denomination that defines itself doctrinally as Reformed and which is considered conservative, the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA) is going the same route of wussification. This denomination, founded in 1973, did not exist during the civil rights era. It was founded as a split from the Presbyterian Church in the United States, which had agreed to a merger with the liberal Northern Presbyterian denomination. However, many of its congregations predate the denomination, and many members and some pastors opposed the civil rights movement of the 1960s. However, most of these people are dead. There were also tax cheats, adulterers, slanderers, etc., in the Southern Presbyterian, or for that matter Southern Baptist, congregations of that era. Should we renounce these sins as well? As for the black churches, maybe they should apologize for their encouragement and excusing of race riots in the past, not to mention Black Lives Matter thuggery in the present. I won't hold my breath to see the African Methodist Episcopal Church or similar bodies issuing such apologies.

Using covenantal theology is merely a thin disguise for assuaging guilt for the sins, real and imagined, of their grandparents and great-grandparents. I am sick and tired of hearing wimpy so-called conservative denominations like the SBC and the PCA apologizing for being white. Sorry, but were it not for Europeans and their descendants in the Americas, the world would at best be at medieval levels in technology. Life would still be brutal, short, nasty and mean.

[Sybeck1]

I have been a member of SBC churches in North MS all my life and have never seen the Confederate battle flag flown in s single one or even spoken about. Aren’t there more pressing issues?

[Pelham]

“repudiating the Confederate battle flag as an emblem of slavery”

I guess these dimwits can’t figure out that the Battle Flag was the emblem of fighting Yankee invaders.

If these goodie goodies want to ban the flag that flew over slave fields they need to try the Stars and Stripes which did exactly that from 1789 to 1864.

It doesn’t matter what politically correct fools do. They just do you the favor of identifying themselves.

[zzwhale]

all this over a flag....

oh wait that was moochelle talking about the USA flag....

remember....the south will rise again.......

[Wallace T.]

A Confederate flag does not draw all men to Christ.

I have lived in Texas all my life and attended all sorts of churches, from independent Baptist to Episcopalian. I have never seen a Confederate flag in any of these churches.

Perhaps we should ban the American flag from churches. Most churches do have that flag in the vicinity of the pulpit or altar. The Bible does not require the flying of a national flag in church. Some people are offended by the Stars and Stripes: socialists, Communists, anarchists, foreigners not grateful to this country. Some churches fly the Christian flag. Muslims, Jews, Jehovah's Witnesses, atheists, and others find the cross on that flag offensive since it contradicts their beliefs.

The Southern Baptist Convention is a predominantly Southern denomination, as are the Assemblies of God, the Presbyterian Church in America, the Churches of Christ, etc. Anglo-Southern culture is as much a part of their heritage as African-American culture is part of the heritage of historically black denominations. Great missionary works have been performed by these Southern churches over the years, even in the days of Jim Crow.

It is high time to preach the Gospel and to stop apologizing for being white.