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Mikhail Gorbachev: Putin Is an Obstacle to Progress
time.com ^ | May 23, 2016 | Mikhail Gorbachev

Posted on 05/30/2016 11:15:17 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

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To: Freelance Warrior

Yeltsin for standing on that tank during the coup attempt, will always be a hero, who saved Russia, despite how he may have been as President.


21 posted on 05/31/2016 7:43:02 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Saved? From whom?

Probably, his opponents at that time would have turned out less disastrous presidents.

22 posted on 05/31/2016 7:53:26 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: Freelance Warrior
Saved? From whom?

The hardcore Communists who tried to turn back the clock.

23 posted on 05/31/2016 7:54:18 AM PDT by dfwgator
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The hardcore Communists who tried to turn back the clock.

Those were not the people Russia needed to be saved from back then. Probably they would have prevented the country disintegration, the total economic, scientific and social collapse and the civil wars.

I admit the Yeltsin was a good Russian president for Russia's adversaries, and/or neighbours, but not for Russia.

24 posted on 05/31/2016 7:59:02 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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No one of them has lost a country (with the head position for themselves).

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It’s an interesting perspective.

There were forces seemingly outside of his control at play in Gorby’s world. The USSR, de facto, was unsustainable as it was constructed at the time.

If he is deemed a failure, what would success have looked like?


25 posted on 05/31/2016 9:07:19 AM PDT by dmz
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There were forces seemingly outside of his control at play in Gorby’s world

As well as elsewhere for any other ruler. Still, the level of control available to a Soviet Secretary General was rather high.

If he is deemed a failure, what would success have looked like?

A Chinese-style transition to the market economy, keeping stiff political control in the process.

26 posted on 05/31/2016 11:57:59 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
So, apropos of nothing, will Biden be going to state funerals? Thanks Berlin_Freeper.

27 posted on 06/01/2016 8:41:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
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Today too we need to free people from fear of the state, because until we do we cannot have a democratic state.
Nope, quite the opposite.


28 posted on 06/01/2016 8:43:05 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Mikhail Gorbachev is like a John McCain or a Bill Kristol...


29 posted on 06/01/2016 8:52:14 AM PDT by GOPJ (Clinton was impeached for LYING UNDER OATH in a SEXUAL HARASSMENT case NOT for an affair.)
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In Russia, Gorbachev is about as popular as Hitler.


30 posted on 06/01/2016 8:52:51 AM PDT by dfwgator
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