Posted on 04/02/2016 9:50:05 AM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel
I thank you for that! We need to be able disagree without getting angry and using filthy language toward each other.
I’m guessing you like Cruz - don’t you think your vote for Cruz should be counted as a vote for Cruz? Do you think that’s ridiculous?
Getting involved on the local level is a joke. Didn’t you see the video of the GOP guy saying in a meeting that the people don’t chose the candidates - they - the officials - do.
BTW. are you still in CA?
By all accounts, your vote WILL be counted, on the first ballot. If Trump failed to secure all the delegates required, it appears that, thanks to the due diligence of the Cruz campaign, he has a chance to overtake Trump. That’s the process, has been for some time, and doing the work required on the local level is a crucial part of it. This failure is no fault of anyone but the Trump campaign.
Is Lamar! behind this?
Good point. Bushes have long been overconfident with their own party, and they only lost in 1992.
The GOP is not quite as corrupt as the Democrats, but they are getting closer every year. This is why I started supporting Trump a few weeks ago. Trump is my second choice, behind Cruz, but Cruz cannot realistically win on the first ballot, and I want a first ballot decision.
Those disloyal “Trump” delegates are not going to vote for Cruz once they are no longer bound to Trump, and neither are many of the Cruz delegates (unless Cruz is far more politically skilled than I can imagine). They are there to nominate someone who supports Amnesty, Obamacare, and the rest of the big government agenda.
You have FReepmail.
By all accounts....TN, LA and others are going into play. Do you remember this with Romney? I don’t. You don’t think this will be a battle to the death with every trick played that there is...do you think they’ll passively give up their control?
Cruz could easily see his position as a spoiler totally spoiled by a Ryan or some other “fresh face” the GOPe has already called for this week. Either Cruz falls totally in line with the globalists - which I personally think he has anyway since the “outsider” stuff is B.S. - or he’ll be thrown out also.
Hey...Ryan 2016! Trillions for the gravy train or Hillary....with trillions for the gravy train.
I honestly think this is what we’re facing.
This is your OWN TEAM that is pulling this BS. Remember Mississipi ? Remember Cochran ?
If they can do it to the frontrunner, they can do it to ANYONE !
FRIG the NAMES, it's the PROCESS that is GAMED AGAINST Y.O.U.
“Once again, Trump doesnt like the rules, so he cries foul. His campaign didnt take the time, money, and energy to learn the rules for each state and ensure that they got their delegates in there. Sheer incompetence. I hope that a Trump presidency isnt so half-assed.”
Exactly. He surrounded himself with people who have no clue how this all works, and now it’s panic time. I am surprised at the number of freepers that have no idea how it works ... how it has worked from the time the Republican Party was formed.
Freepers, if you want to avoid a scenario like this one, don’t just vote. It is just as important, if not more so, to also attend your precinct conventions, and either run as a delegate yourself or vet the delegates that will move up to the next level and vote for them accordingly.
There used to be FReepers that were active participants in real politics. They mostly seem to have moved on one way or the other. Gresham’s Law.
Two different RNC insiders informed us that they pick the candidate not the voters and people still wonder at the deceit of the GOPe?
If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it."
Mark Twain -
WOW...nothing has changed has it? Good quote...and sad.
Here we have a chance to actually do something about it...I pray we don’t blow it because this won’t come around again, unfortunately.
All this advice from a conservative that has Senators Diane Feinstein and Barbra Boxer as well as Governor Brown to brag about.
Your political advice is noted for what it is worth.
So Stalin was right. It matters not who votes, but who counts the votes. Sadly you seem to be comfortable with that.
What they are doing is the GOPe is positioning its hand-picked delegates and “sleepers” to the rules committee rather than delegates favorable to the candidate.
This is so they can lay down whatever rules they need to prior to the convention to get their “puppet” nominated. Just look at all the talking heads this week saying we need someone - a fresh face - to be nominated.
They are laying the groundwork (trying to limit damage) when the nominee turns out to be someone not even running.
A twitter feed of the process:
https://twitter.com/joelebert29
Examples:
1 member says he has tremendous respect for GOP, says he has problem with fact that people who aren’t Trump supporters are delegates for him
Burke citing executive committee rules, noting that campaigns are able to say who alternate delegates should be, not party
Burke calls slate a travesty, ends remarks; Sam Cooper says there are names on slate that are not what campaigns asked for
Cooper and Burke noted that there are people who are alternate delegates who on Facebook do not support @realDonaldTrump
Another committee member asking if process that was used this time to decide delegates is the same as before; Haynes says it has changed
urke says @TNGOP bylaws call for campaigns to offer alternate positions, says issue is “black and white, we have not done this right”
Step 1. shine a big spot light on it.
And Trump has put a delegate team together led by a guru.
Rules are fine but not ex post facto ones.
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