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Trump Delivers Ratings Win With Abortion Punishment Statement (he's bigger than FOX itself!)
Deadline.com ^ | March 31, 2016 3:01pm | by Lisa de Moraes

Posted on 03/31/2016 4:00:00 PM PDT by drewh

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To: okie01

There are plenty of places where abortion is against the law, easily defined, punished. Also in human history of course. I don’t know why so many are aghast at the notion. Of course if you kill an innocent person on purpose you should be punished.

Post-abortive men and women may be reading this. If so please know I don’t hold you in contempt. If you have repented you are forgiven and it is not the unforgiveable sin. We are talking about civil law, here.

You can’t make something illegal and then say there is no punishment. It’s really not illegal in that case.


41 posted on 03/31/2016 6:25:52 PM PDT by Persevero (NUTS)
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To: StAntKnee

“Should men just stay out of this debate altogether?”

NO please sir get into it and don’t let any feminist chase you out.

1. almost half the aborted children are male;

2. all the aborted children have a father and in this country he is not allowed to do anything to stop their murder;

3. virtually every woman who I saw at the crisis pregnancy center who had a boyfriend who wanted the baby, carried. virtually every woman who I saw at the crisis pregnancy center who had a boyfriend who didn’t want it, aborted.

4. young men need to be taught to stop fornicating. They are making little abortions all over the place. Many of the women I saw never told their one night stand or minor boyfriend they were even pregnant. They just killed their child.


42 posted on 03/31/2016 6:28:54 PM PDT by Persevero (NUTS)
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To: StAntKnee

Absolutely not, StAnt. This issue needs the cooperative voices of both sexes to bring our country back to moral reality.

Otherwise, there Bible is just an old book of no particular modern value, and the 10 Commandments are just the 10 suggestions, relegated to the dustbin of history.

Please speak your mind and conscience.


43 posted on 03/31/2016 6:32:08 PM PDT by jacquej ("You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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To: freespirit2012

I agree with you 100%. If either has sinned but received redemption in the past and has since remained faithful I think the American people would tend to forgive. After all, who has not sinned.

I really don’t want to jab this too deep if you are a Trump man, but your man insist that he doesn’t sin and has no need for forgiveness. That would, I imagine, include his bragging in his bio about sleeping with married women.

Anyway, thanks for your message!


44 posted on 03/31/2016 6:38:19 PM PDT by gbscott1954 (Why not a real Conservative?)
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To: jacquej; Persevero

Thank you both for your cordial, informative replies. Nice to hear an answer without the judgmental attacks. I have found this debate to be very complex. You can argue it from a moral perspective with a kind of distance. Then you meet up with it face to face in your personal life and have to re-evaluate all your previous perspectives. Finally, you confront an entirely new set of realities such as those from Freakonomics. Then comes the Pope with a seeming moral relativism.

What to make of it all.


45 posted on 03/31/2016 6:50:06 PM PDT by StAntKnee (Add your own danged sarc tag)
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To: dartuser

From his performance, it looks like Trump should have declined it, too.


46 posted on 03/31/2016 6:56:27 PM PDT by MarDav
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To: gbscott1954

Thanks for your message... I don’t believe that Trump believes he has not sinned...


47 posted on 03/31/2016 7:09:27 PM PDT by freespirit2012
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To: StAntKnee

My guess is that we can only deal with issues like these from our own moral perspectives, and recognize that others prefer to see it differently for their own reasons.

We must forgive their trespasses, as we would like to be forgiven our own. But, we are not asked or expected not to notice either theirs or our own.

What to make of it all?

If we accept that there are no absolutes but those that suit our own predelictions, then what do we have? It looks a lot like Sodom and Gomorrah, which is where we are right now.

What to make of it all? We each have to decide, in our hearts, which path we will follow, the easy wide one, or the narrow harder path.

Hard choices, friends.


48 posted on 03/31/2016 8:49:02 PM PDT by jacquej ("You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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