Posted on 03/20/2016 11:32:51 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Nothing ventured, noting gained.
At least that's how it used to be - when America was the place to build a life and not a place to collect a check.
The Review using the pioneers to trash Trump, now?
Good morning B_r_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXp7IkhCSuQ
A nice Roy Orbison song to help soothe what ails you:
“They say the heart must feel it all
Know every rise and everyfall
To earn the right to stand in sunlight
Someday the sun will always shine
Deep down inside this heart of mine
And it will be my time
I hope I find it
Shinin’ somewhere
Somewhere out there
There will be love in time
In time.....
Rivers keep flowing
Cold winds keep blowing inside me
I walk alone
Hard rain keep fallin’
Lost souls keep callin’ so lonely
I hope I find
Love in time
Love in time
.............”
I am under no obligation to "negotiate those changes" when the changes were forced on me by non-representative government and a slew of opportunistic politicians/lobbyists/lawyers/social engineers feathering their own nests. If I can use a wrecking ball to set-right the deleterious changes forced on me, my community, my country, then so be it.
Trump is ultimately a force of government "of, by, and for The People" and I hope he can turn things around, because if he can't turn things around as an elected official, then we crumble and fold as a Nation. The people replacing us don't give a damn about the "pioneers, settlers, and pilgrims" you pretend to celebrate.
Like any of those NRO people ever set their hand to a plow. Or a covered wagon wheel in a rut. Or an 8 thousand mile trip like my ggrandmother with 2 babies on a ship,then a train, then a stagecoach by herself to the Arizona border to be in 1883. She died a widow of forty years
in 1931. She raised 5 boys. She did washing. Bought houses and rented them. She bought stock and water rights. Her home which fell across the line in 1891 is now used to stage illegals to “jump the wire”
In her name I will try to save our country from rule by NRO effetes for her now ggggranchildren and beyond.
I’ll note here that many of Trump’s supporters never bothered to vote before - one called in to Rush’s radio show to proudly state his virgin voting status (almost voted for Perot but didn’t), not one bit of shame that he’d never registered to vote.
It’s interesting that these previously uninvolved citizens who couldn’t be bothered to fight in the trenches now champion Trump because of (and I expect you’re speaking for this group) “... changes were forced on me by non-representative government and a slew of opportunistic politicians/lobbyists/lawyers/social engineers feathering their own nests”....
Where were these “oppressed Americans” when the little red hen was asking for their help?
Well, are you sure they are voters for Trump?
https://marcorubio.com/news/first-time-voters-marco-rubio/
Marco won Florida in a landslide, said no one ever.
Like Sarah Palin I trace my family roots back to Stephen Hopkins’ daughter Constance. Others “roots” - still many generations ago - were added along the way.
And in those centuries they’ve moved to every corner of the United States to seek opportunity, to prosper and to provide for themselves.
“OBAMA PART DEUX”
I would be careful using the Obama reference to diss Cruz. Obama has been VERY successful in getting his agenda done. We would be fortunate if Cruz (or Trump) get half has much done as they are saying they will do.
oops - I meant half as successful as Obama was.
You can add Obama-Trump voters:
“...For Linda Flesch, who supported President Obama the past two elections, the top issue was jobs, and she said she sees Mr. Trump, a billionaire businessman, as the country’s best chance to spread prosperity to this hard-hit part of the country.”....
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/15/donald-trump-attracting-new-voters-democrats-tired/
to the newbies:
http://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/rngs/1/511/648/USA-ELECTION-TRUMP.jpg
Still a valid point.
>> It’s no mistake, in the end, that the symbol of Donald Trump’s appeal is a wall.
A conclusion promoted by and for idiots and deceivers.
Who knows ... living their lives I suppose ... I have been voting since my late 20's which was about 3 decades ago. I suppose if I were cajoled to defend the "first time voters" for Trump, the best I could say is "better late than never."
When it concerns politics, the bell never rings.
May 8, 2013 Fox News Latino
Ted Cruz Files Amendment To Deny Path To Citizenship As Senate Works On Bill
......”The amendments filed today to strengthen border security and reform our legal immigration system will not only bring meaningful, effective improvements to our immigration system, but also have a chance of becoming law,” said Cruz in a statement. “America is a nation of immigrants, built by immigrants and we need to honor that heritage by fixing our broken immigration system, while upholding the rule of law and championing legal immigration.”
His amendments are among more than 300 filed by the Tuesday evening deadline. Republicans wanting tighter enforcement provisions filed a majority of the amendments, with Sen. Chuck Grassley, a Republican from Iowa, leading the pack with 77 amendments.
Supporters of the bill, mainly of the part of it that would legalize millions of undocumented immigrants, kept a steady drumbeat in defense of the measure though emails, websites and social media.
In a press release, America’s Voice, a leading national group that advocates for more lenient immigration laws, singled out Cruz’s anti-citizenship amendment as particularly worrisome.
“This would not only destroy the path to citizenship in the Senate bill - the popular heart of an immigration reform solution - but also turn its back on 100 years of precedent in immigration policy,” said the release..........
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/ted-cruz-immigration-record-216919
Dec 17, 2015: Politico
“....The bipartisan group of eight senators - including battle-tested veterans and relative newcomers like Rubio - painstakingly negotiated a delicate compromise in early 2013 that would overhaul every corner of the U.S. immigration system, including a 13-year pathway to citizenship for millions here illegally.
Fans and foes of the legislation, as well as observers at the time, knew the core bill couldn’t change too dramatically because that would upset that compromise, which not only had the backing of Democrats and Republicans in the Senate but also coalitions off the Hill, such as labor unions and the business lobby.
Cruz’s amendment - which called for stripping out a pathway to citizenship, but keeping a path for legalization - would have done precisely that.
The night before each Senate Judiciary Committee markup, senior Gang of Eight aides would huddle to scour through each of the amendments that were teed up for the following day, determining which proposals would be palatable and which would be unacceptable. This strategy was meant to ensure the core elements of the Gang of Eight deal would stay intact (the four members of the Gang who sat on the Judiciary Committee would vote in a bloc, usually with the rest of the committee Democrats, to vote down potential deal-killers).
“This one was one that clearly we all had to oppose because it went to the core of the deal,” recalled an aide to a Senate Democrat during the 2013 negotiations. “It could’ve unraveled the whole deal. Sure, Cruz himself never called it a “poison pill” at the time. But no senator refers to his own proposal as a poison pill, even if it plainly is. The Gang of Eight never considered Cruz as “gettable,” and it was well-known at the time that Cruz was never going to vote for the bill and was in fact, trying to kill it.”.....
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