Posted on 03/09/2016 1:57:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Ignorance is strength!
You postulate an impossible situation. If you need to pay to play for your business to survive but you don’t like the system do you speak out? Who listens, you are a nobody and now you are a broke nobody.
Or do you play the cards you are dealt and win. Then you have the muscle to change the game. Trump knows he’s the only one (perhaps a few others exist but they are not willing to take it on) that can become POTUS without being gelded by being bought.
I don’t think its about criticism. I think its about letting the sunshine in and making people aware of the consequences of the present “Standard Operating Procedure”.
After what they did with Obamacare and what the GOPe did in Mississippi I wouldn’t put anything past that den of snakes.
Principles are pretty inconvenient things sometimes... if one has them.
An interesting comment but a non sequitur none the less.
So 40 years of doing this and he’s all of a sudden a saint? LOL. Ok.
You seem to believe that if he had real convictions on these matters, he could do nothing. I may have been spoiled having seen real men make stands that would hurt them more than a billionaire who decided to forgo some business.
I just don’t think the “john” has any less moral responsibility than the prostitute, so the buyer of a politician isn’t any less repulsive than the politician who can be bought.
so, you intend to cop out again?
real Americans vote
“so the buyer of a politician isn’t any less repulsive than the politician who can be bought.”
You are absolutely correct. Funny how they totally want to ignore this. The Donald is just as corrupt as the politicians the tRumpsters claim to hate.
It’s simply the cult of personality.
By extending their logic, not even the corrupt politicians are culpable, since they are simply working within the system in which they find themselves. Where does it end? Is there ever any moral responsibility?
Neither do all the Cruz or Cancer bits here claiming the reason the donor class and GOPe and Fox News are spending 150-200 million in Florida and Ohio leading up to primaries to defeat Donald Trump and install Ted Cruz...
Is because really they hate Ted Cruz more
That my buddy is a notion that makes ZERO SENSE
Ted ...maverick and grandstander he is and often for good reason is nevertheless still one of the club
Trump is not and will never be
He doesn’t need the GOP or what used to be called erroneously conservative media
Nobody I know of has survived as much shit thrown at them as Trump since August
He has proven to be tough as hell and resolute
He sure as hell has my vote and support
Those here who detest him should step back and ask how Cruz would have done under that onslaught
And quit pretending he has
They rather lose to Hillary than win with Combover
Cruz they will begrudgingly accept because they retain some influence
Differences of opinion make horse races. I don’t agree with you but I don’t want to make my comments an attack. I ran my own business and I was lucky enough to be able to stand on principle, lose money to do the right thing. But while on the microcosm I was upright and went the extra mile without monetary reimbursement my choices had consequences. They were the right choices for me but because of them I never became a big operation and I was not able to have any effect on the corrupt system that was shortchanging patients and damaging healthcare. If I had instead been a player I could have amassed the political and monetary capital to have a chance to challenge the system.
I made my choices, Trump made his. In the end his choice may result in him being able to do much more to restore America than I was able to do although I did the most moral thing as I went along.
The world is not black & white.
I detest when people try to use the “well that’s the way things are” or “that’s just the way so and so is”. It’s that way because people make excuses for it. People behave badly because everyone makes excuses for them.
It appears it’s not going to end and moral responsibility left the building a long time ago.
I think Trump can beat Hillary, I don’t think Cruz has any chance. The more people who actually hear Trump speak for himself will say I get it, especially on trade. Cruz is not going to bring independents or democrats over in the general election.
I also think Trump is in a better position to deal with ISIS by being “neutral” on Israel and willing to work with Russia, he can create a coalition that Cruz won’t be able to after his anti-Putin, anti-Russian, Israel or die remarks. This is a very important issue to stop the genocide of Christians and to stop the migration of the ME Muslims to all the western nations and all the issues and dangers it brings.
I think overall my choice between Trump or Cruz would have been much closer if Cruz had been straight about being an insider within the political –government establishment. He is not an outsider and when I figured that out I felt betrayed. He could have said, “Please come join me in this fight for change I have been involved for sometime…” but he claimed outsider status instead.
The other issue is his somewhat over the top religious persona. I don’t trust a politician ‘to show America the face of God’. Not there job. And if he’s “God’s representative” and a complete ass?
But, here is where he lost me completely - https://youtu.be/kNa5w9js48s . No Christian I have asked about this was comfortable with it and I found it scary. I would say this doesn’t seem to be mainstream Christian theology. When the media is done with Trump they will eat Cruz alive with this stuff. At this point I doubt I could ever vote for Cruz.
Two words. Don Quixote.
Trump supporters generally see that Trump is a flawed individual and choose to support him anyway.
Cruz supporters can generally see no wrong with Saint Ted.
Listen man, I appreciate it not getting personal. I really do. I hope my comment didn’t come off as disrespectful to you. I try hard to avoid vitriol for fellow conservatives who have a different opinion.
And I don’t mean to sound condescending when I say this, but your past noble choices belie the contention about black and white. You made the right choices, and this freeper thinks you are the richer man for it.
Its good to meet you too!
Likewise, brother.
I am off to read to my kids before they go to bed. God bless.
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