Posted on 03/04/2016 1:23:50 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
Oh, I’m sure there’s a lot more to the history than just this fact.
Other major facts (that led to Dec 7th...):
1. The Japanese getting their a$$es kicked by the Soviets in 1940 in an almost secret little war.
2. The might—as perceived—of an unstoppable Germany, an ally, that was taking on the Soviets and pushing them back almost 1,000 miles.
3. Perceived American weakness.
4. America putting all their eggs (ships in one Pearl Harbor basket.
5. Britain on the ropes due to the Germans.
6. The idea that a weak America would grow stronger with time along with the belief that the Soviet Union would grow weaker with time—or cease to exist (East Wind, Rain, rather than North Wind, Cloudy).
7. The false belief that Western powers would give up if they’re handedly beaten early on, as in Tsarist Russia’s fleet of 1905. They failed to see the Americans as worthy opponents with a huge advantage in staying the course—and eventually winning.
8. Finally, your point: US economic sanctions.
That's a fair point. But looking back, what other options did FDR have? Should he have continued to supply the oil Japan needed to wage war against China? Because the occasional US destroyer sail-by won't do much to change anything.
Fast forward to today. Should we consider pressuring China using trade sanctions? Or should we just concede that maritime region to them?
I suppose it's something like finding a nest of vipers in some back region of your property. Should you attempt to carefully clear it out, or is best to just leave it be?
Should have been at the end of the second paragraph in post #22. Computer gremlins at work again.
“So how do you create a carrier that works?”
order one from the U.S. or U.K.-
What? they won’t build?- just ask for the detailed plans-
Barak -Hussein, or Hitlerly will gladly give you the plans for a little cash.
An hour later, you have to re-float them.
Well... The Chinese are not engaged in slaughtering people all over Asia, and we don’t have any desperate need to control that area any more.
Our ‘allies’ there have not been very friendly so we don’t have much in the way of bases. To put it mildly, IMHO, our logistics in that area of the world stinks on ice.
And, given our recent military history, we shouldn’t commit to any fight we’re not willing to win.
If we had better leadership or a better electorate, I might support trying to hold on, but, as things stand...
Any bets on whose carriers get blown up first in a China v. US war?
I was just thinking how I’d like to read a sukhoi-30mki post this morning. Keep them coming.
They cannot sell skill, training, experience or know how to carry out damage control. Several times in WWII, the Japanese assumed they had sunk our carriers, because they had blown the heck out of them. But not only did we keep them afloat, but we got them reconditioned in record time.
Whereas, in their case, they lost carriers.
Ed
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