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Bill to make electric chair backup in Virginia moves forward
Associated Press ^ | Mar 2, 2016 3:53 PM EST

Posted on 03/02/2016 9:33:31 PM PST by Olog-hai

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1 posted on 03/02/2016 9:33:31 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

They could also use hammers


2 posted on 03/02/2016 9:38:12 PM PST by ghosthost
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To: Olog-hai
A spokesman for Gov. Terry McAuliffe, a Democrat, has declined to say whether he would support the bill. ...

This slimy McAuliffe scumbag is one of the original Clinton Chinagate cronies!

3 posted on 03/02/2016 9:39:35 PM PST by Mr Apple (President Buckwheat, ship your muslim pals to...the Château de Lacoste castle, Vaucluse, France)
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To: Olog-hai
"Bill to make electric chair backup in Virginia moves forward"


4 posted on 03/02/2016 9:44:39 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: Olog-hai
#1) I am an electrician.

#2) My father worked in a state maximum security prison as a guard.

With background knowledge of #1 and #2, there is no need for electric chairs in our culture. It is cruel and unusual punishment. I'm not against lethal injections or firing squads as "usual" methods which are less "cruel", but electric chairs and gas chambers are state sponsored ghoulish devices.

5 posted on 03/02/2016 9:51:16 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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Agreed. Firing Squad or Hanging work for me.

Maybe a Guillotine, still undecided on that one. Wouldn’t support it if the Condemned was put in it face up with his Eyes pried open though. Well, maybe.

Lethal Injection, no way. It’s just too easy on the Murderer.


6 posted on 03/02/2016 9:58:35 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (It is better to live one day as a lion than one hundred years as a sheep)
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To: Kickass Conservative
God sorts em out in the end. No need to be needlessly cruel on our end of the spectrum of life and the after.

I would however support the right of immediate family survivors to select the method they would like to be carried out if they so choose. Just not the state.

Interesting fact though. Many people in prison are not guilty of the crimes they are incarcerated for. That's not to say they are not guilty of other or worse crimes, but prosecutor goes for the easiest crime to charge and get a prosecution.

7 posted on 03/02/2016 10:09:39 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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This is why I hate government we the people let happen. What a stupid issue.

They make it overly complicated. You can’t tell me that in 2016 we can’t have better drugs or electric chairs (notice how the left keep portraying them as from the 1920’s?) or even hanging ropes.

Total liberal BS.


8 posted on 03/02/2016 10:12:04 PM PST by Fledermaus (Trump: I Don't Trust Him. Pandering isn't pretty.)
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"Maybe a Guillotine"

Government does most things poorly. Also too close to Islam and their lovely beheadings.

Personally a $100 bag of heroin and some works to shoot it with is nice. Heck, they might even line up for that. They just need to shoot up the whole bag.

I'd pass out heroin in prisons like Pavlov, readily available for anyone really unhappy about being there.

9 posted on 03/02/2016 10:15:37 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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"You can’t tell me that in 2016 we can’t have better drugs"

We do. It's called Heroin or Propophyl. We just like to employ a few dozen people per head for long enough to collect a pension and three dozen social workers and psychologists to make a few million shekels. Crime pays. It just pays the beast of government.

10 posted on 03/02/2016 10:21:17 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: blackdog

Knock someone out like they do for surgery, the replace their oxygen, with carbon- monoxide, they never wake up.


11 posted on 03/02/2016 10:23:14 PM PST by Mark was here ("The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam" - Obama.)
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I’m with you on this one. Originally electrocution was used because it was thought to be a humane way to kill someone. Years of experience have suggested otherwise.


12 posted on 03/02/2016 10:32:24 PM PST by Agnes Heep ("Oh, Master Copperfield, with what a pure affection do I love the ground my Agnes walks on!")
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To: Mark was here
Knock someone out like they do for surgery, the replace their oxygen, with carbon- monoxide, they never wake up.

Nitrogen does that, and you don't have to worry about knocking them out in advance.

13 posted on 03/02/2016 10:34:28 PM PST by Agnes Heep ("Oh, Master Copperfield, with what a pure affection do I love the ground my Agnes walks on!")
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To: Olog-hai

I once asked an FBI agent why the firing squad wasn’t used. He said that it’s difficult to find people to actually pull the trigger. Secondly, if the convict moves, it can cause great injury without lethal outcome.
Apparently, only one of the guns (more than one is used) contains the lethal bullet.

My response was...ask the family of the murdered one if they have any interest in manning the guns. Some families actually need that option, and would jump to the task.

Then, strap the convict to the wall so he CAN’t move.

Third, with the technology today, there should be NO issue with a computer system to line up the sites and the target, while the shooter pulls the trigger(s)

I don’t think a firing squad is all that efficient.

There are tons of drugs which can be given in lethal dosages. And yes, some of them DO cause outward effects that can leave a viewer traumatized, but the fact remains, once a person is dead, there is no more pain.

I don’t see the means of the death as cruel and unusual punishment in the USA. If anything is unusual in the penal system, the death penalty is it. The usual is to keep people in cages. Death sentences aren’t carried out every day which makes ANY execution unusual.

We do try and make things as painless mentally and physically as we can in this country. It’s not like we tie them into cages, and then light them on fire. That would be horrible.

What do they use to euthanize animals now? I know there are several drugs which can be used. Some of them I absolutely don’t like, but I don’t know what they are. I’ve just seen them used, and the results. One of them puts the animal to sleep, and that’s it. Done.

Another is like a human execution. First, an anxiety med, second a paralysing med. The animal suffocates because it can’t move it’s muscles to breath. And sometimes a third injection is given to stop the heart from beating. This method sux because the animal is awake and aware and can’t do a thing about it. You can see the fear and torment in it’s eyes until it finally dies which can take some time. There are much better drugs.


14 posted on 03/02/2016 10:36:21 PM PST by PrairieLady2
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To: blackdog
That would work and apparently Heroin is easier to procure than the Lethal Injection Drugs, unless you know a Veterinarian that is.
15 posted on 03/02/2016 10:39:46 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (It is better to live one day as a lion than one hundred years as a sheep)
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To: Agnes Heep
Electricity and it's conductive path efficacy varies greatly from person to person. This is due to variations in body chemistry, mass, hydration, fat ratio, salt or electrolytes, etc.....

I've seen 2,300 volts leave not much left but soot on the floor, and I've seen a guy just tossed 20 feet with minor burns doing the same dumb thing.

16 posted on 03/02/2016 10:43:45 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Agnes Heep
I used to be an electrician at a sausage factory. Sometimes I was called to the kill floor to fix something. They just had a big conveyor with rails that moved the animal along into a 99% carbon dioxide room. The conveyor never stopped. In one minute the animal was completely unconscious. It then exited the room where a guy swung a cinch chain around a leg, hoisted it up and slit it's throat to bleed out. About 100 steers or hogs per hour. The hogs went down a lot longer along than the steers.
17 posted on 03/02/2016 10:52:32 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Olog-hai; MeshugeMikey

Is it solar powered?

If that fails, just chuck him into a windmill.


18 posted on 03/02/2016 11:07:25 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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To: PrairieLady2
...ask the family of the murdered one if they have any interest in manning the guns. Some families actually need that option, and would jump to the task.

Your post made fine sense over all, but on this point I suspect that often a vengeful family member would deliberately deliver a non-fatal shot merely to induce suffering: groin, knee, shoulder, belly, etc. Our present society would not countenance that.

19 posted on 03/02/2016 11:18:47 PM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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There are just too many factors involved to make electrocution a practical means of execution. And it’s gruesome! Lethal injection works very well, but no matter what the means, the detractors of the death penalty are going to find some way to agitate against it.


20 posted on 03/03/2016 12:10:41 AM PST by Agnes Heep ("Oh, Master Copperfield, with what a pure affection do I love the ground my Agnes walks on!")
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