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This is not necessarily meant to be the debate thread but it can be if FR wants it to be. I couldn't find a live thread so I posted this FYI.

Personally, I am not sure I want to endure another one of these things. I mean to me it's a political theater of the absurd. It certainly is not a bona fide "debate" - it is a Q&A session with the MSM moderators in the spotlight, holding all the cards, and calling all the shots. It's again the Right letting the Left run the Right's show. It is a wonder to me that the GOP candidates come to these things so meekly like sheep to the slaughter.

It is also a wonder to me that people like me keep watching these things. Feels a little like Lucy continually tempting Charlie Brown to kick the ball. It's the same result every time: just like Lucy pulling the ball away at the last second, this event provides nothing very substantive or new, no one has time to go into any depth on anything, and the network ends by congratulating themselves on what a wonderful job they did.

So why do they go to these things and why do we watch them? Well my excuse has been because of Trump - he injects a little liveliness into what would otherwise be deadly boring IMO. But I'm not sure even Trump can get me to keep watching these things.

I guess there's at least a couple of relatively new breaking stories that may be part of tonight's festivities, dunno.

One is Cruz's motion to dismiss an effort to get his NBC eligibility status resolved in federal court. Cruz's refusal to get this thing settled in federal court one way or the other does not look like good faith on his part to clear away obstacles that could DQ him later if he were nominated potentially handing the election to the socialists. That would be disastrous of course and I expect more from Cruz than this - seems like he's gambling with America's future.

https://www.scribd.com/embeds/300178070/content?start_page=1&view_mode=scroll&show_recommendations=true

Secondly is the late-breaking rumors about Rubio and a possible scandal or affair. Gee haven't had any of those yet this campaign so here we go.

http://rightwingnews.com/republicans/breaking-damning-affair-scandal-erupts-for-gop-candidate/

1 posted on 02/25/2016 3:57:09 PM PST by Jim W N
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To let people know where I stand: I am not on the Trump train. If he is the Republican nominee, I will likely vote third party. I am a conservative. This is not just lip service. My voting record includes voting for Pat Buchanan (twice), Alan Keyes (twice), Rick Santorum (twice), and Tom Hoefling.

Donald Trump is not a conservative. I believe that he is a skillful opportunist who isn’t rooted in conservative principles. Even if one accepts his words as truth, he is a very recent convert to conservatism—conveniently it would seem.

As I’ve stated before, one of my biggest complaints with at least some of Trump’s supporters is this: As a social conservative, I have been fighting in the Culture War for many years. Fifteen years ago, when those of like mind were trying to rally support to the conservative side, many (ahem) moderates who claimed to be Republican or even conservative were either nowhere to be found, or even worse were claiming that we were needlessly hyperventilating about the problem of the rising tide of liberal aggression in the social sphere. They assured us that they were on our side, but that there was nothing to worry about. When our fears were proven right, they said that there was nothing that we could do about it and it wasn’t that big of a deal anyway. Some even effectively took off their mask and revealed that they had all along been kindred spirits with the other side.

Now some of these same people who were AWOL in the Culture War are coming out of the woodwork and are accusing us of being part of the liberal establishment, when it was they who were complicit in the liberal establishment’s implementation of a new world social order.

Since they were noncombatants or even undercover enemies in the Culture War, I am apprehensive about making peace with them now. Those of us who have been fighting the Culture Wars and other political battles while most Trump supporters were sitting on their rears shouldn’t expect us to easily rally to their banner today.

I am amazed at the almost religious fervor among Trump supporters. If elected, I hope that he will be a great President. But, if I were a gambling man, I would bet strongly against it. I would also wager that most of those supporting him now will eventually be among his greatest critics.

Those who support the lesser of two evils are still complicit in evil.


41 posted on 02/25/2016 4:57:45 PM PST by Engraved-on-His-hands (Conservative 2016!! The Dole, H.W. Bush, McCain, Romney experiment has failed.)
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Thanks for the thread
bkmk
43 posted on 02/25/2016 4:58:17 PM PST by novemberslady
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To: Jim 0216

RUBIO must have offered the VP slot to Romney!!


48 posted on 02/25/2016 5:01:32 PM PST by acoulterfan
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If there is going to be massive audience participation I may have to turn this off.


52 posted on 02/25/2016 5:03:19 PM PST by acoulterfan
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WHY is Telemundo moderating??????

This is so rigged tonight. It is do or die for the Establishment. You can bet the whole Audience is Liberal OR Republican Establishment.


59 posted on 02/25/2016 5:10:00 PM PST by acoulterfan
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I will bet Trump has something on Cruz and Rubio that he can use if they come after him. And I will be they know it. Especially Rubio.


63 posted on 02/25/2016 5:13:16 PM PST by acoulterfan
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bump


66 posted on 02/25/2016 5:14:30 PM PST by maggief
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I was really sick the last time they debated and didn’t watch it. I’m not sick now, but I’m not going to watch tonight’s debate either. I think the candidates have debated enough, besides, these debates were never about the issues, but about creating drama and bringing Trump down.


74 posted on 02/25/2016 5:19:19 PM PST by Southnsoul
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Waiting for it to start, listening to the heads natter on.
Guess we’ll soon see if the RNC packed the hall with its droogs again.


80 posted on 02/25/2016 5:22:18 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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Does someone have a link? I am seeing nothing.


81 posted on 02/25/2016 5:23:30 PM PST by samtheman (Vote Trump)
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All right, no viddy loves, but found on radio.
Tristan and Isolde for a little musical touch—

Whose got the pop-corn?


90 posted on 02/25/2016 5:28:32 PM PST by CharleysPride (In a year you will be thanking God that Donald Trump is your president.)
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They’re already starting with the anti-Trump stuff. Gee, maybe if he wins, someone else can run independent. They are actually building up Donald’s case that they are not treating him fairly, per the agreement not to run independent. Keep it up, guys. You are making it more likely that you will lose.


92 posted on 02/25/2016 5:28:49 PM PST by firebrand
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GAME ON


96 posted on 02/25/2016 5:30:33 PM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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bump


99 posted on 02/25/2016 5:31:58 PM PST by 4Liberty (Prejudice and generalizations. That's how Collectivists roll......)
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Is there a good online link?


105 posted on 02/25/2016 5:34:31 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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All ready breaking for commercial? Gezuz.

The MSM loves these debate$


115 posted on 02/25/2016 5:35:57 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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They already showed a video featuring Cruz’s face on the screen while Trump’s crowd yells, “USA, USA!”


119 posted on 02/25/2016 5:36:43 PM PST by firebrand
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Jezzz, no wonder I seldom tune into TV....They’re on their 6th commercial...They love debate$


128 posted on 02/25/2016 5:38:46 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Thanks for starting the thread. Cruz and Trump need to tag team Rubio and knock his lying a** out the race.


131 posted on 02/25/2016 5:39:04 PM PST by MLL
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Drinking game: take a shot every time Trump interrupts one of the other candidates.


133 posted on 02/25/2016 5:39:18 PM PST by RedWhiteBlue (Mama tried)
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