Posted on 02/25/2016 8:10:06 AM PST by Kaslin
Thanks, will go read.
Get ready to get exposed to both sides of this issue and some sides not mentioned elsewhere.
What is on the killer’s phone that is not available from provider’s phone records (numbers, time duration), GPS tracking records (location over time), emails (archiving) from internet providers???? NSA is supposed track terrorists!?!
All that can be acquired without having the physical phone.
It all looks like another version of going after the gun ban after random killing.
What is left of citizen’s privacy ???
You already pay for your phone that gives the almighty government free access to your private activity.
Yeah, freedom for terrorists, spying on citizens!
> I’m shocked that so many Americans are ignorantly willing to empower this federal government to create a master key to our smartphones.
The article begins with a lie.
Just because, you or I won’t doesn’t mean others don’t
The FBI has requested ( https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2714001/SB-Shooter-Order-Compelling-Apple-Asst-iPhone.pdf ):
* bypass or disable the auto-erase function
* enable the FBI to submit passcode via the physical device port, bluetooth, wi-fi, or othe rprotocol available on the SUBJECT DEVICE
* software running on the device will not purposefully introduce any additional delay between passcode attempts
None of these are “master keys” or “backdoors”. The delay between retry attempts is a feature designed to annoy. Disabling the auto-erase function does not weaken encryption or require disclosure of any encryption keys, neither does removing the retry delay.
“It’s war. You don’t let the enemy have a weapons/comms system that you can’t attack.”
By this logic, the American people (the primary consumers of iphones) must be the enemy.
“Disabling the auto-erase function does not weaken encryption or require disclosure of any encryption keys, neither does removing the retry delay.”
Surely you know that both of those features are designed to thwart brute force decryption techniques, and that removing them essentially hobbles the encryption by making it vulnerable to attack.
I don’t care if they waterboard Tim Cook - unlock the damn phone!
Please: forget for a moment that Cook is a liberal gay man.
Put that aside.
Also understand you cannot unlock one of these phones in isolation. To do so, you have to give the keys to the kingdom - all Apple phones.
Is that still ok to you?
What will the black box building in Utah do with that?
Will it stop there or will T-Mobil, AT&T, Verizon have to give up their Droid password entry mechanisms/heuristics/algorithms?
Is it still ok?
“If such is the case, then how can the FBI be trusted to keep an Apple key for the iPhone secure?”
They can’t. The US government is lagging behind when it comes to cybersecurity, it has been for decades now.
One example of why... say you are a 15 year old whiz kid hacker and you break into your government’s secured servers. If you were in China or Russia, you would immediately be hired to work from the government, to direct your talents at the nation’s enemies. In America, we charge the kid with a crime and try to make him not touch a computer until he is 21.
Of course, the end result is that any serious, organized badguys who aren’t already using encryption or other secure means of communication will start doing so. So the FBI will be frozen out of those channels.
But they’ll have the tools to unlock the phones of any petty drug dealer, right-wing extremist or militia member, and they’ll be asking for hundreds of phones to be unlocked. This is the big prize for them, not the people in San Bernadino. They’re just a convenient excuse.
I’m surprised so many people don’t understand this.
So, if we were at war with Russia and Colt developed a new weapon for them, you’d be okay with that? Me...I’d have them drawn and quartered in the public square.
Apple has created the commo system for world wide terrorism, and somehow people think apple should NOT be the target of the military and the intelligence services. Amazingly stupid when you are at war not to go after the enemy’s communication system.
Those more interested in convenience and less interested in security can lock their Iphone with a four digit code. If one is more interested in security, one can choose a code or phrase with many more possible permutations. The delay (and I am assuming it still applies) is more than just an annoyance. It makes it impractical to break into the phone using brute force during the lifetime of the owner.
What is really scary re your comments is the timing.
Who is Potus and who is his AG?
Apple did not create secure Iphones for our enemies. They created them for use by free people everywhere.
The technology of encryption was not created by Apple. Nothing Apple does or does not do will in any way affect what our enemies will be able to do with this technology.
The only thing that would stop China, or South Korea, or any other nation from creating a secure phone using known technology would be a government prohibition.
China would not do so because they fear their own people more than any external enemy. South Korea might hesitate to do it because of the threat of sanctions from our government.
Somebody will do it. Americans will own it unless prohibited by their own government. Do you support an international treaty outlawing secure encrypted communications?
You cannot put this genie back into the bottle.
Absolutely irrelevant if the terrorists are using them as part of their comms network. As president in wartime, I’d already have infiltrated apple and stolen their damn key. Period. Screw them. You don’t give safe commo to the enemy. I can’t believe people are this stupidm
And therein lies the rub. Apple does not HAVE a way to get in. The government is trying to force them to CREATE a way to get in that does not yet exist.
And there is substantial doubt that this is an "extreme case". The two terrorists had two other phones as well as computers, which were all destroyed by them before they went on their killing spree. So how likely do you think it is that they just happened to have critical intelligence on a work phone (which they should have assumed could possibly have accessed by the employer) and neglected to destroy that device as well?
Do you think that the "key" is some lengthy encryption code that exists somewhere in a safe in Steve Job's old office?
Isn't it the case that the FBI is expecting Apple engineers to create software that can work around the various hardware and software security features of the Iphone? These features were designed intentionally to make hacking difficult if not actually impossible.
Is it you opinion that the government should prohibit the making of an unhackable Iphone?
It’s my position that we’re at war.
Does everyone really believe Apple DIDN’T give the government access?
The rest is theatre.
You all here want the NADA that took your rights.
STOP...for real...this is what you wanted.
So...we might “feel” safe or something.
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