Posted on 02/21/2016 6:04:01 AM PST by jimbo123
Buckle in. We've only just started.
Of the Bush brothers, Jeb was always considered the more conservative of the two.
Well yeah. But that's like saying Harry Reid is the more conservative of Pelosi-Reid-Obama.
He has no political "record" other than voting for Republicans almost exclusively. He has no policies or laws that he's sponsored or enacted. He has never held or run for political office where he's had to run on what he believes...until now. And what he's stating is conservative. You can look up the public comments of any public figure and construct a narrative of their politics by cherry picking the comments that fit the narrative you're trying to construct. I can make Barack Obama look like a rock solid conservative by selectively quoting him and holding up his family life. But what gives him away is the policies and his political record. Trump has no policies or political record.
You don’t have to be in ‘elective politics’ to listen to the callers on Rush, Hantity, and others.
But you DO HAVE TO LISTEN!
Bush could have listened and maybe stuck around a bit longer. Bush also had tremendous money - which can buy you polling. But you HAVE TO LISTEN to the results and stop thinking that the pollsters only called up right-wing kooks.
Jeb may be the face of things now, but he showed that WE WERE RIGHT - the Republican Party is COMPLETELY OUT OF TOUCH with its voters...the entire party supported him, and he wound up with 5% of the votes.
If the party leaders don’t look SERIOUSLY at just how out of touch they are, they will soon find themselves on the street.
I like Jeb. He’s not as charismatic as his older brother. But I agree with him on being “gentle” with immigrants. My sister in law is Mexican. I love Mexican food. So call me a traitor. I don’t care. Check out my profile and you’ll see I’ve been here since 2000. Whoever wins the primary, I’m going to cast my vote for him against Hillary (or Bernie).
P.S. I’m in favor of building the wall and stricter border controls. But deport all the illegals? Get real.
Dubya won 44% of the Hispanic vote in Florida. Now that’s crucial in states such as Florida where hundreds of thousands Puerto Ricans have moved to in the past couple of years. That could end up being the decisive bloc in the election.
But the GOP does?
and angles to play, and deals to make.
Sounds like the GOP.
Will he sacrifice political popularity to nominate and support conservative Supreme Court nominees, or reform entitlements, or repeal Obamacare? What in his record makes you think there is any principle that he will not abandon as soon as it is convenient to do so?
None of the so called conservatives we sent to Washington have actually lived up to what Cruz or other conservatives demand from Trump. These people have given us liberal judges, caved for Obama and have sold out on principles they claim to have.
“You mean you can’t win without the base? SHOCKING!”
Jeb’s arrogance when he said that he could do this, (win) without the base, was the beginning of his downfall in my opinion. You don’t snub your base. In many respects I see Donald Trump doing what President Reagan did, going straight to the people and not looking down at them, but lifting them up with his speeches. Yet the MSM made so much fun of President Reagan that he was a class B actor, not to be taken seriously, etc. Yet, President Reagan had a BA degree in Economics and Sociology.
....... he went after Jeb early and often. Trump knocked out the GOPe preferred monied candidate out of the race almost singlehandedly.
By the time Trump is done with her no self respecting lib is going to be able to muster up any amount of enthusiasm to vote for her.
This is one of many reasons I'm supporting Trump.
I don't understand the suicidal love affair a lot of Freepers have with Cruz.
Trump is destroying RINOs, political correctness, the media, and even Hillary, with impunity.
He's accomplished more against political correctness, RINOS, the media, and the Dems and has advanced the conservative cause more than any other candidate in 30 years.
But all Cruz has to do is wave around a Bible and suckers flock to him.
Cruz hasn't been able to do anything close to what Trump has done.
Cruz may be a conservative, but he's a terrible candidate. He has barely been able to defend himself, much less take down the competition.
I don't thing that's accurate. "The Republican Party" is millions of people and thousands of office holders at the local, state, and national levels. Some of them are indeed out of touch, having been inside the bubble too long. (We need term limits.) Most of them, however, are pretty sound.
At the congressional level, we have a solidly conservative Republican caucus in the House that can and will move conservative legislation. (How many times have they already voted to repeal Obamacare?) In the Senate, there are a half a dozen weak links, but most of the caucus is reasonably sound. The problem is, we do not have enough votes to break a filibuster or override a veto. And the leadership has concluded -- after having been burned repeatedly since 1995 -- that we cannot win a government shutdown battle, regardless of how that comes about. I do not necessarily agree with that judgement, but I understand the calculation.
We need a Republican president and Congress working together. It is true that we had that during part of the Bush 43 years and have little to show for it. That, however, is because healthcare and social security reform were stopped by democratic filibusters. If we get another chance, Republicans must consider eliminating the filibuster, or acting through reconciliation. Eliminating the filibuster is a pick your poison option, because we will face runaway democratic majorities sooner or later. But it must be on the table.
The RINOs are real, but they are a minor part of the problem. They figure in the debate mostly as straw men offered up by people who want to pretend that the solutions are easy. (Hey, all we need to do is elect the current man on the white horse, right?) As for the RINO's are concerned, the current insurgents' idea is that if we just shoot a few exemplary cases to stiffen the rest, all will be ok. But the reality is that this still won't get us 60 votes in the Senate, and nothing of major consequence will move as long as the filibuster holds.
You, like Yeb, have miscalculated the American people's absolute rage at having millions of illiterate child molesters invade this nation.
Americans have watched their small towns turn into barrios for 20 years and are furious and afraid for their own existence.
The American people are FURIOUS about having almost their entire economy sent to Mexico and China.
The American people would fully support rounding up and deporting the 50 million illegals that are here.
If it takes SWAT teams rounding up families, they'll support it. One at a time if need be.
There is a good reason that Trump soared to the top of the polls and has stayed there when he gave that speech about Mexican rapists.
Sorry, but you need to get with these guys and tell them that we will NEVER GIVE A FREE PASS on Immigration.
We are sick of that crap.
We TRIED to warn you guys in 2014 when we took out Cantor. But the response was that Cantor lost because he was ‘out of touch with his constituents’. WHAT A LOAD OF BS. Sitting Majority Leaders don’t lose because they’re slow in finding granny’s Social Security check, in fact they NEVER LOSE in a Primary - until they disconnect with people on a REAL ISSUE.
If Trump hadn’t run on Immigration, he would have been LAUGHED OUT of the process. In fact, no one here wanted him around, at all. There was no calling for him. We looked at him the way the GOPe still does, as a LOUDMOUTH BLOWHARD who had nothing to offer, given the field of 15 candidates, some of which had very strong conservative credentials.
Then he talked Immigration, and the rest was history. You need to tell these people that IMMIGRATION IS OUR TOP ISSUE and if they continue to FIGHT US on it, we will continue to FIGHT BACK.
Look at the Democrats. They ran O’Mally, Clinton, and Sanders. Name one issue where ANY OF THEM are disconnected from the base. Abortion - NO, Open Borders - NO, Obamacare - NO, Unions - NO, Gun Grabbing - NO.
NOTHING! and that’s what their voters want. They may differ around the edges somewhat, but at least THEY LISTEN TO THEIR VOTERS.
We simply WILL NOT hold our noses, bend over, and vote for yet another candidate that we hate - and thankfully there is NO NEED TO this time, or at least there will not be a need to once Trump finishes off Rubio.
You have a date of 2000 and a picture on your site but NO info about yourself as ‘anything’-—I like Mexican food as well but am sick of being screwed by Mexico when they send the bottom of their people here to get money to send back to help keep their crooked country going——they rule by fear and military/police control-—they are not a republic or democracy!-—you may be a bit biased by relationships so I give you the benefit of the doubt as to 100% lovalty to this Nation——cheers
You realize that YOU WILL NOT CHANGE ONE MIND HERE posting this garbage. But just to have some fun, I’ll parse it:
“Some of (the Republicans) are indeed out of touch, having been inside the bubble too long. (We need term limits.)”
Sorry, but the Dems have people in Congress for decades, but they NEVER SWAY from their beliefs. The party, particularly the BIG-MONEY interests are causing them to move left and THAT NEEDS TO STOP.
“At the congressional level, we have a solidly conservative Republican caucus in the House that can and will move conservative legislation. (How many times have they already voted to repeal Obamacare?)”
About 50 times. And how many times have they voted to DEFUND OBAMACARE - zero! Which is why we still have it, even though ALL SPENDING BILLS ORIGINATE IN THE HOUSE. The people on this site are not as STUPID as you appear to think - we don’t fall for symbolic votes here...not us. Sorry.
“In the Senate, there are a half a dozen weak links, but most of the caucus is reasonably sound. The problem is, we do not have enough votes to break a filibuster or override a veto.”
So why were you guys telling us 2 years ago that if we would just win the Senate, we’d really hold Obama’s feet to the fire? Obviously you were lying to us then - so why should we believe that Rubio will side with us, instead of siding with you guys. As to the filibuster, we have enough votes TO END IT, once and for all, and FORCE Obama to veto legislation. But I guess that conveniently didn’t occur to you (until below).
“And the leadership has concluded — after having been burned repeatedly since 1995 — that we cannot win a government shutdown battle, regardless of how that comes about. I do not necessarily agree with that judgement, but I understand the calculation.”
I’m glad you disagree with them because there is ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE that we ever lost ground due to fighting the Democrats, including shutdowns - but there is PLENTY OF EVIDENCE that we’ve gotten our butts whipped over and over when we’ve ‘reached across the aisle’, particularly in the 2006 elections.
“We need a Republican president and Congress working together.”
Actually it depends on what they’re working on. If they’re working on Amnesty we DO NOT NEED THAT. How about a CONSERVATIVE president and a CONSERVATIVE Congress working together to follow Trump’s positions on Immigration?
“It is true that we had that during part of the Bush 43 years and have little to show for it. That, however, is because healthcare and social security reform were stopped by democratic filibusters.”
We had a SENATE MAJORITY for all but 2 years of Bush 43. Again, WE COULD HAVE STOPPED THE FILIBUSTERS - but for some reason we chose not to, even when it meant getting qualified judges on the bench. Hmmm. We don’t need excuses, we need people WILLING TO FIGHT and obviously that has not been the case.
“If we get another chance, Republicans must consider eliminating the filibuster, or acting through reconciliation. Eliminating the filibuster is a pick your poison option, because we will face runaway democratic majorities sooner or later. But it must be on the table.”
Something I agree with. YEA! Too bad we may never get another chance to do just that, particularly if Rubio makes it to office and gets his Amnesty through.
“The RINOs are real, but they are a minor part of the problem.”
I agree with that actually. The HUGE PROBLEM is our leaders and their money-men that simply DESPISE THE BASE, but still expect us to bend over and vote for them every time. As we’re showing with Trump, and somewhat with Cruz, those days are over. We will replace them with people that actually SUPPORT THE BASE.
“As for the RINO’s are concerned, the current insurgents’ idea is that if we just shoot a few exemplary cases to stiffen the rest, all will be ok. But the reality is that this still won’t get us 60 votes in the Senate, and nothing of major consequence will move as long as the filibuster holds.”
We DO NOT NEED 60 VOTES to enforce Immigration laws. We DO NOT NEED 60 VOTES to stop funding Obamacare and a trillion or so other wasted dollars. There is PLENTY that can be done with what we have now in Congress, particularly if a guy like Trump is in charge.
Kick out the criminals. Build the wall. Recruit more Border Police. Then we can focus on Americanizing the folks that are already here. We are not going to deport millions of Mexicans, it’s just not going to happen.
Look at my reply #54. A simple solution to the “illegal immigration” problem.
They're all criminals from a backwards peasant culture that glorifies incest child rape.
We can't "Americanize" them.
We absolutely must and will deport them all.
All of them? Incest? Where did you get your information from?
Reading news articles. Reading books. My own family experiences.
The United States has imported millions of illiterate sexual deviants that view women and children as property.
After 25 years of witnessing this first hand, the American people have had enough.
I object to your disparaging comments on Hispanics. My two nieces are half Hispanic and they’re every bit American as you are, whether you like it or not!
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