Posted on 02/19/2016 2:19:39 PM PST by Kaslin
And you have a contract or handshake that you have looked at ahead of time and that guarantees you a profit at the end of the job. That’s called ‘self interest’.
America has the kind of “free trade” that has us hundreds of billions in the RED each year. That’s called ignorance.
If you used that kind of “free trade” you’d be living on food stamps and Obama phones.
People can and do fail at business, It's called creative destruction. It's what makes our system great. Did you know that small construction businesses fail at a clip of almost 90%? Likewise in other sectors.
I remember when the Japanese were killing us with their crony capitalism in the auto industry back in the eighties. Reagan said we would win in the end, because our freedom was a better system.
I remember the argument. Well, Reagan was right. Our system won. Ford and the others forged a dramatic comeback and did well until they put themselves on the government dole.
This is a very complex issue, but genuine freedom is not the problem. What I call free enterprise is not BS.
I do not believe you enter a deal in which you’ve crunched the numbers and you come out BEHIND at the end of the deal.
I don’t buy that.
I think that your self-interest has crunched the numbers and you come out ahead at the end of the deal.
I've had many employees that left, thinking it was easy to do what I was doing. To a man they admitted later how wrong they were to think that.
I didn’t say it was easy.
I said you don’t enter a deal in which the numbers you’ve crunched say that you lose.
Well, I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest we think about what each other is saying.
I just want you to consider that free trade should be something to aspire to, that it's done every day when we go to a store, or hire someone to do something for us, or even go to work.
Just think about it for a while, I'm just saying it's NOT a BS concept, and as CEW said, free trade does not mean we have open borders.
I understand what you are saying, and I'll let it sink in.
Deal?
Maybe you missed the last half of the sentence. Don't see much wrong with it except maybe it doesn't go far enough. Bush's own Treasury Secretary has said that Bush's first order of business in 2001 as the new President was to invade Iraq and get Saddam and he told his staff to go get a good reason to do it.
There is very little we can do about the currency manipulation. Nor should we worry about it. In the long run, a strong dollar relatively helps - even as it might hurt a certain segment in the short run.
China’s weak currency has tanked their economy, their markets are down 80%, their malls and apartments are empty. We can’t do a damned thing about it, nor should we. We are doing much better than China now, even as we have massive problems. And again, our President is NOT the President of China, nor can he do much about the China central bank.
Dang man, who let the dogs out? CW, I forgot that you’re on my no-reply list as an attack dog who doesn’t listen and has no answers.
Have to call the kennel to round you back up.
Bye.
I didn't refuse, I just know that when a premise is total bullshit, nothing that follows matters. And what are you babbling about on the wall? I'm in favor of a wall or whatever it takes to secure the border. You're in la la land - your new abode - if you believe the Mexico will pay for it stuff.
Yes. I’ll think about it, but self-interest is capitalist.
Really? You mean like slamming big oil and big pharma and big health as the culprits of Obama Care? As in wanting a mandate? As in punishing Ford or Carrier instead of incentivizing them to stay? As in the fact he's never uttered the phrase "limited government" in his entire life? As in favoring ethanol? As in calling the lawyers every time he doesn't get his way?
Outside of strip clubs and casinos and rent controlled apartments and golf developments, all of which were done with skid greasing of politicians, where the heck do you get this great free market stuff? It's not consistent with his history.
I guess you don’t see a difference between “they lied” (later he said “the government lied”) and “Bush lied.” There’s a difference. There is certainly an inference as there was in real life, but Bush may never have actually publicly stated there were WMD’s.
You kind of miss the point here really IMO. Bush’s own Treasury Secretary has said that one of the the first thing on Bush’s agenda as the new President in 2001 was to invade Iraq and get Saddam and Bush charged his staff to go get a good reason to do it. Bush went into the presidency having already made up his mind to invade Iraq regardless. Why is not certain why, but possibly because Bush was pissed about reports that Saddam had tried to take his dad out a few years before in Kuwait.
Take ethanol, for instance.
First, production of fuel is a national security issue.
Second, I'm betting you don't know how it's processed and used and the real costs.
Third, I'll bet you don't know how farmers are benefited.
Big Talk don't mean doodly squat, kimosabe.
My understanding of Trump is bound up in what I have been told is one of his principles, which lets him go places in the end and get to a deal that is good for him.
It's how he moves the Overton window and why he's been so successful in this campaign.
If you understand he's playing a long term game here, you will understand some of his apparently off the wall statements better.
Examples:
1. His moving the Overton window on illegals.
2. His moving of the Overton window on muzzies.
3. His taking away of the Bush past as an issue (understand I believe he went waaaay to far with this and hated most of what he did, but he took a future issue off the table).
4. His taking away the war on women crap. He did that brilliantly.
5. His putting the Clinton's on notice about #waronwomen, and beginning the death spiral of the Hildabeast. Brilliant.
Yes, he's got problems, yes some things will bite us in the butt, but that's a given with any candidate, including Cruz.
I'm also pro-small engines and boat engines.....
:-)
Ethanol is fuel. Use it right and it adds to the supply of homegrown energy. And any cost analysis that doesn’t take into account that fact that it doesn’t “disappear” once it’s been fermented, but that only the sugars have been largely used up would also take a barrel of oil and pretend it’s wise to throw away what remains when the amount of gasoline has been refined that can be refined.
All it takes for engines to be fine with it is the correct plastics.
Right now, that's rarely a choice.
See. Free enterprise, not gubmint mandate.
Okay, okay....I just had to slip it in......:-)
if there were anymore sugar in that coating, it would melt in a rain storm.
Art of the Deal is about cronyism.
Doing the art of the deal doesn’t have a damned thing to do with being able to move the macro economy forward - which can ONLY be done by government getting the hell out of the way. When have you ever heard Trump say ANYTHING related to that even remotely?
Remember TARP, Stimulus, every single bail out - Trump was on board and saying they weren’t big enough!!!!!
I have destroyed your stupid theory, and for some reason, you think repeating it makes it less retarded than it is. It doesn’t. You cannot point to a single thing other than your man crush fantasy to back up your claim
Enjoy your TARP, your Stim, your bail outs of everybody - that’s your “lack of purity.”
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