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We here a lot about Trump "stiffing" his bankers. Here is the story. The bankrupties were Chapter 11 - protection from creditors while reorganizing not Chapter 7 liquidation.

We don't know the details of the terms except that generally Trump lost a significant part of his personal stake in each.

1 posted on 02/12/2016 9:07:05 AM PST by AndyJackson
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We keep hearing slams against Trump for stiffing his bankers. Here are the details.


2 posted on 02/12/2016 9:08:11 AM PST by AndyJackson
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No risk, no reward. The guy has hit a lot more home runs than strike outs.


3 posted on 02/12/2016 9:09:20 AM PST by C19fan
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The habitual liars at Polticfax are now “credible” because they say something “conservative” campaign bots what to hear?


4 posted on 02/12/2016 9:11:15 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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This is the money quote in this article:

Trump's four bankruptcies were Chapter 11 reorganizations (named for its location in federal bankruptcy code), which are designed to restructure businesses without shutting them down completely. The purpose is to "save" the business, as opposed to other forms of bankruptcy which would liquidate the company, said Michael Venditto, a partner at the ReedSmith law firm who has extensive experience with Chapter 11.

In other words, no one was stiffed out of money. Everyone was paid. Trump paid. Despite these business losses, the built an empire worth billions.

Reorganization Chapter 11 is NOT 'Walk Away from Problems Chapter 7'.

7 posted on 02/12/2016 9:15:40 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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I don’t see it as a negative that Trump has experience with Chapter 11 reorganization. This whole country is headed into Chapter 11, so the more experience the better. LOL


10 posted on 02/12/2016 9:16:40 AM PST by 20yearsofinternet
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By your sources you are know. You want to get in bed with habitual liars, don’t be surprised your reputation picks up fleas.


11 posted on 02/12/2016 9:16:41 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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I am going for Cruz but Trump is right on this one.


13 posted on 02/12/2016 9:17:36 AM PST by Larry Lucido (I'll support Trump as a second choice, and I'll get on my knees and pray we don't get fooled again.)
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He didn’t go to uncle sugar for bailouts like obozo’s crony capitalists like government motors and AIG did, either.


14 posted on 02/12/2016 9:18:10 AM PST by Newtoidaho (Sprinkles are for winners.)
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any media person who criticizes a legitimate business owner who puts their money on the line and makes like they could do better should quit their job and prove it.

Politicians who obtain and spend other peoples money would not last 2 minutes if they had to prove they make sound decisions, and never exceed budgets, and always deliver stellar returns on money received.

sound bite’s wont work with The Donald as he will Bite Back...


15 posted on 02/12/2016 9:19:42 AM PST by patriotspride
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So Bankruptcy is a sign of a business man with good business judgement?

wow the spin is getting better and better


16 posted on 02/12/2016 9:19:44 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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I’m a Cruz supporter and Trump’s bankruptcies have never bothered me one little bit. Capitalism requires a risk of failure along with a chance of success.

Name me a poker player that has never lost a hand. Sometimes you make bad decisions in business, and sometimes you just can’t win a hand you are dealt.

No big deal.


17 posted on 02/12/2016 9:20:08 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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In the world of real estate, Trump investment style has the the largest potential rewards however the biggest risk.
There are still companies out there damaged by the 08-09 crash.


21 posted on 02/12/2016 9:21:49 AM PST by Zathras
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This is why corporations exist, to shield individuals from the financial ups and downs inherent in business. Bankruptcy laws have been around for hundreds of years and were specifically authorized by the US Congress, under Title 11 USC.

A banker I once knew had a cartoon on his wall that showed a hayseed-chewing farmer sitting before his banker’s desk. The farmer is saying “Yup, I may be a dumb SOB..” and in the next block, “But I ain’t the dumb SOB who loaned me all that money!”.

Point being, every banker who got “stiffed” loaned money in the expectation of making a profit in terms of the interest he would earn. That is capitalism. For those who don’t like it, they have a choice: Bernie Sanders or Hillary.


27 posted on 02/12/2016 9:26:55 AM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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Cripes. If Cruz should win the nomination, I hope he has a better understanding of the business world than some of his supporters.


32 posted on 02/12/2016 9:28:10 AM PST by 20yearsofinternet
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The politico article isn’t bad. But it misses the big picture. Trump uses bankruptcy as a negotiating tactic with the banks.

http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2016/02/donald-trumps-big-atlantic-city.html

http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2016/02/trump-chicago.html


35 posted on 02/12/2016 9:32:35 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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This guy was wounded in combat three different times during his 27 deployments:

This guy has NEVER been wounded in combat, so that makes him a far better choice as a military leader:


36 posted on 02/12/2016 9:34:04 AM PST by Cementjungle
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Yes, AND TRUMP put his name on these businesses. Unlike the rest who hide behind the name of the business and later claim that they had NOTHING to do with that business failure..anyone come to mind? Like the gold digger Carly?


40 posted on 02/12/2016 9:38:12 AM PST by crz
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Trump was personally responsible for the four bankruptcies since they were his deals. While he was responsible, he was not liable for all the losses.


43 posted on 02/12/2016 9:41:19 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Companies_that_have_filed_for_Chapter_11_bankruptcy


44 posted on 02/12/2016 9:46:13 AM PST by crz
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The question I have, would President Trump Threaten to push the U.S. into bankruptcy?
I would love to see China forced to settle for pennies on the dollar for the 1 Trillion+ debt they hold.
45 posted on 02/12/2016 9:46:20 AM PST by Duke C.
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