Posted on 01/26/2016 1:34:36 PM PST by HarleyLady27
If Trump has opened the Curtain on elections, and candidates and super packs, lobbyists, special interests, GoPe, RINO base, media and talking heads...
Can you imagine what he will open up on the House and Senate and other parts of Government....
That’s why they are afraid of him, and because he won’t go ‘globalist’ or ‘CFR’...and that stops America from getting involved and can put America back up again...
What a nonsense question. I didn't even come close to implying that. I DID say, however, that Trump has been supporting the very people we are supposedly voting against this time... in both parties. He has even been defending some of them from the "attacks" of Ted Cruz (whose attacks we used to support here).
How is that change?
This would be great with a sarcasm tag... did you mean it as sarcasm?
no, it is the reality.
your view of reality is far to dogmatic and narrow
TTTT
Good news - as always!!!
. 2012 and 2008 was marred by the vander plaats pay to play dealings. Huck didnt believe in his own message so he had to pay vander plaats.
Looks like Cruz paid good amount to vander
Businessman running against a lawyer and investment banker...
Excuse me for having principles.
I agree... with one caveat. What if DT is part of the status quo? He's contributed to all of the above at some point.
Bump
GOP Nominee
Trump - 46%
Rubio - 29%
Cruz - 11%
Bush - 10%
Presidency
Clinton - 49%
Trump - 18%
Rubio - 12%
Sanders - 8%
Bush - 4%
Cruz - 3.5%
Bob Vander Plaats’ Pay-For-Play Scandal: Charged A Million Bucks For Endorsement, Asked Candidates To Drop Out
by Igor Volsky & Zack Ford Dec 23, 2011 10:09 am
Bob Vander Plaats’ Pay-For-Play Scandal: Charged A Million Bucks For Endorsement, Asked Candidates To Drop Out
Bob Vander Plaats’ endorsement of Rick Santorum has produced a backlash among conservatives in Iowa, some of whom are accusing the FAMiLY LEADER president of engaging in “pay for play†schemes and selling his coveted support to the highest bidder. Earlier this week, Santorum admitted that Vander Plaats approached the campaign with an indirect solicitation of money to help promote his support, but now other sources familiar with the talks between Vander Plaats and GOP candidates are characterizing the tactics as “corrupt.â€
“Clearly the endorsement was for sale — without a doubt,†one source told ABC News’ Shushannah Walshe and Michael Falcone, stressing that Vander Plaats had tried to receive money for his support in past election cycles:
Though Santorum did not specify the dollar amount he and Vander Plaats discussed, multiple sources said he was soliciting as much as $1 million from Santorum and other candidates.
In an interview with the Des Moines Register this week, Vander Plaats said that it was his “ethical responsibility†to essentially put some money where his mouth is. “You can’t say, ‘We endorsed you. Now see you later,’†Vander Plaats told the Iowa
newspaper. “That’s not going to do a lot in the long run.†But one long-time Iowa conservative activist told ABC News, “There is no way he could buy enough ad space in Iowa for a million dollars — couldn’t buy that much advertising in a week and a half in Iowa.â€
ABC News has learned that Vander Plaats tried to solicit money for his endorsement during the last presidential cycle too. A former staffer for Mitt Romney’s 2008 presidential bid who is currently unaffiliated with a campaign said Vander Plaats came to them seeking money for his backing if he supported the former Massachusetts governor. “He wanted to be paid,†the former staffer said. “He was clearly looking for a paycheck. There was a conversation about him getting a title, but being a paid consultant was much more important.â€
Meanwhile, Rick Santorum revealed yesterday that Michele Bachmann was not the only candidate Vander Plaats called to suggest she drop out. Both he and Rick Perry received similar requests:
This seems to also raise speculation about who exactly Vander Plaats actually wanted to endorse. Last month, he indicated that he had narrowed the endorsement down to four candidates: Santorum, Bachmann, Perry, and Newt Gingrich. During the weeks after that announcement, The FAMiLY LEADER’s attention seemed to be focused entirely on raising support for Gingrich, saying “he’s had a life transformation,†accepting that he “asked God’s forgiveness†for his infidelities, and accepting his affirming letter of the group’s “marriage pledge.â€
While Santorum may be correct that conservatives like Vander Plaats were just trying to unite social conservatives, it may be that Vander Plaats was building support for Gingrich, the thrice-married former speaker whose complicated marital past raised concerns for certain Evangelical leaders. After all, Gingrich donated $350,000 last year to his campaign against the Iowa Supreme Court Justices who ruled in favor of marriage equality, which is quite the “pay for play.†Santorum, Bachmann, and Perry have the social conservative credentials Vander Plaats would want to endorse without the baggage of Gingrich’s infidelities, but if they had dropped out, he could have endorsed Gingrich without it looking like blatant quid pro quo.
UPDATE
Progress Iowa has launched a petition calling on the Federal Elections Commission to investigate The FAMiLY LEADER for potential illegal campaign coordination. According to Erin Seidler, a spokesperson for the group:
Bob Vander Plaats’ solicitation of funds to promote his endorsement of Rick Santorum raises serious questions about further coordination between a political campaign and an outside group. Considering the possibility of illegal activity so close to Caucus Day, you can take Bob’s word there is no coordination or you can join us in telling the FEC to investigate if any illegal coordination is taking place.
by Igor Volsky & Zack Ford Dec 23, 2011 10:09 am
And his donation to Harry Reid in his last election?
it made me look up VanDerPlatt and realize Trump may be correct about him.
Maybe Trump’s wording isn’t so pretty, proper or eloquent - but I’d rather truth no matter how blunt or ugly it may sound, at first :)
When you apply for a loan, you don't get the money for free, you have to have collateral and signatures, and money down...and you have to make sure you pay it back...so how well you do in your business with people, depends on how much you can pay back the loan, I try to make double, or sometimes triple the payment...
I have a Craft Business and I used ‘Art of the Deal’ to set it up and it has been a good solid business and I'm always in demand, but if I were to pick and choose my customers and how they wanted a quilt done I wouldn't be in business very long...
That is what Trump has done...and that's why he is were he is now and we are where we are now...
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