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Trump's Support for Ethanol Is Bad for Taxpayers and Their Cars
The National Review ^ | January 21, 2016 | Jillian Kay Melchior

Posted on 01/21/2016 2:17:48 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: thackney

Ya, that was interesting (I looked too). 10 years ago we didn’t get much. Now we get a lot more, I don’t know why and that surprised me.


201 posted on 01/21/2016 5:23:37 AM PST by DB
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To: thackney

My info was out of date - memory... The last time I checked was likely before Obama took office...


202 posted on 01/21/2016 5:25:07 AM PST by DB
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To: thackney

After more looking I must be confused... I’m really tired... I’m going to bed...


203 posted on 01/21/2016 5:27:49 AM PST by DB
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

what we need is to not mess with something that isn’t broken. But thanks for admitting that you’re perfectly willing to tamper with the stability of America’s food supply just to prove that Ted Cruz supporters are more conservative than Donald Trump supporters.


204 posted on 01/21/2016 5:28:06 AM PST by RC one ("...all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens" US v. WKA)
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To: Neoliberalnot

“” Cite an industry not supported by government. “”

Not much love for the oil and gas industry, hell we’ve been demonized. We’re the ones who brought down the high gas prices in-spite of government interference and now we suffer from doing too good of a job. Millions of people have been hurt, 39 oil producing states are seeing less severance tax revenue which means everybody will soon see a tax increase to offset the lose. People invested in 401’s are taking a big hit. I wonder if people would rather walk to the grocery store or drive? Maybe those of us in the oil and gas business in the US just need to take a one month vacation. Shut the wells in, turn the lights off and watch oil go over 200 dollars a barrel within a month. There’s about 300 thousand stripper wells across the US that are borderline getting shut in as we speak, many have already been shut in.


205 posted on 01/21/2016 5:30:22 AM PST by Dusty Road (")
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To: Dusty Road
What level of insanity decided to make it a mandatory source?

The Energy Policy Act of 2005 was introduced into Congress by a Republican representative. It passed by overwhelming majority votes in both the house and senate, both of which were controlled by the Republican Party. It became law when it was signed by the Republican President Bush.

206 posted on 01/21/2016 5:33:17 AM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: DB

My sad realization is that there really is not enough of us to stick together with. I have come to accept the fact that our base yearns for the good old days of FDR, not Reagan as I thought. My nightmare that I feared has arrived, a candidate who is culturally conservative, but economically liberal. We used to hear of the candidate who would state they were socially liberal, and fiscally conservative, they were always losers. I used to say to myself that the opposite was dangerous, that type of candidate could run the table. Unfortunately my fears are coming true.


207 posted on 01/21/2016 5:33:18 AM PST by gusty
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To: Neoliberalnot
There is gasoline without ETOH available.

In some areas. In mine it takes about 150 mile drive to find. {Houston area}

We have the joy of also being an EPA Reformulated Gasoline required area.

The problem is the blend mandate forces companies to price Non-ethanol gasoline high enough to keep the purchases of ethanol mixed gasoline sufficient. They buyer of non-ethanol gasoline is forced to subsidize the other purchases.

208 posted on 01/21/2016 5:35:21 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: NorthMountain

“”The Energy Policy Act of 2005 was introduced into Congress by a Republican representative. It passed by overwhelming majority votes in both the house and senate, both of which were controlled by the Republican Party. It became law when it was signed by the Republican President Bush.””

Well that bought a bunch of votes.


209 posted on 01/21/2016 5:37:32 AM PST by Dusty Road (")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I heard about this article this a.m. as the Red Eye radio guys were discussing it.

The Donald has lost me here. Too many lawnmower etc engines rebuilt in my neighborhood because of this crap and don't even ask about the emergency landings ( yes sometimes aircraft use auto fuel ) that I know about because of this.

Get rid of Ethanol and all the boutique blends of gasoline, we need a common fungible standard.

Unless Ted can pull a rabbit out of his hat what the h@ll do I do now, stay home is in 16' is looking like an option, the Donald is becoming an also in the category of the evil of 2 lessers, Putin that can build a high-rise.

210 posted on 01/21/2016 5:39:38 AM PST by taildragger (Not my Monkey, not my Circus...)
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To: Dusty Road

I can’t say that it alone brought us democrat control of Congress and the Kenyan Usurper. I can say that it is symptomatic of the general failure of the Republicans to govern properly 2000-2006 ... and that WAS the cause of the present governmental disaster that is the 0bama regime.


211 posted on 01/21/2016 5:40:28 AM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: RC one

I’ve read many of your posts on this thread. They read like a left-wing dammocrap’s posts - or maybe those of a socialist. Go back to DU. Or CPUSA, as the case may be.


212 posted on 01/21/2016 5:46:03 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: NorthMountain

So the lesser of two evils got us that...


213 posted on 01/21/2016 5:53:06 AM PST by DB
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I wonder if Trump has heard of EROI (Energy Return on Investment)?

There are conflicting reports on whether ethanol from corn provides a net positive energy balance after accounting for the energy required to produce it (tractor fuel, fertilizer, distilling). From what I’ve heard, the return is low—whether it’s slightly positive or negative is under dispute.

If I were President, or even a candidate, I’d say as much, and commission a study by impartial people to get at the truth. Of course, finding competent people who are truly impartial, and then convincing everyone that they were would be difficult.


214 posted on 01/21/2016 5:53:36 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Trump supporters are nuts. Today we see them swallowing the ethanol flip flop with ease.

A social scientist with the University of Massachusetts conducted a study last week designed to identify trends among the supporters of the leading political candidates for the 2016 race. With respect to Trump’s supporters in particular, the study found that the main statistical variable that could be used to predict whether someone was a Trump supporter was not race, age, religion, income, or education. It is, rather, an impulse towards authoritarianism.

http://www.redstate.com/2016/01/17/study-proves-trumps-supporters-wont-leave-matter/


215 posted on 01/21/2016 6:03:31 AM PST by LowOiL ("Let us do evil that good may come"? ....condemnation is just - Romans 3:8)
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To: DB

Yes. I have to reread my typing several times as most of us are not trained typists.


216 posted on 01/21/2016 6:07:30 AM PST by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That’s 2009 and, while most of us knew it, there wasn’t a sure sign of how bad Obama was actually going to be. Kind of a reverse of Obama getting the Nobel Prize before actually doing anything - if you thought that was crap, then hitting at trump for that early on comment is also crap.


217 posted on 01/21/2016 6:08:03 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: DB

The place I saw it said squirrel hair


218 posted on 01/21/2016 6:08:38 AM PST by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: Leto

So you haven’t heard that Cruz told them he’d give them a 5 year Waiver! How Obamaish of Cruz!


219 posted on 01/21/2016 6:11:23 AM PST by Harpotoo
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To: trebb
That’s 2009 and, while most of us knew it, there wasn’t a sure sign of how bad Obama was actually going to be. Kind of a reverse of Obama getting the Nobel Prize before actually doing anything - if you thought that was crap, then hitting at trump for that early on comment is also crap.

What's the cut-off date (going back) for your "I can excuse anything Trump did" position.

220 posted on 01/21/2016 6:13:38 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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