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Donald Trump Turns to Ethanol to Fuel Fight With Ted Cruz
Wall Street Journal ^ | January 20, 2016 | Amy Harder and Beth Reinhard

Posted on 01/20/2016 4:09:11 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Neoliberalnot

“Engines last longer than ever. Have you checked car longevity today?”

As noted by others, small engines are being killed. I can speak from experience after the damage to my chainsaw was directly attributed to ethanol containing fuel. It is almost impossible in my area to find such fuel, pretty much limited to tool rental stores. I finally gave up and have replaced all my small engine equipment (chainsaw, blower, trimmer) with 80Volt cordless.

End the government imposed ethanol use and let the free market guide.


121 posted on 01/20/2016 9:33:50 AM PST by LibertyOh
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Just say no to Iowa farmers trying hold the party hostage to their greed.


122 posted on 01/20/2016 10:10:31 AM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Iowan are for sale. The whole reason they gave Obama a mandate.


123 posted on 01/20/2016 10:12:11 AM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: House Atreides

What kind of work are you in?


124 posted on 01/20/2016 10:13:03 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: RC one

I have to feed my children so screw these rent seeking farmers.


125 posted on 01/20/2016 10:13:11 AM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Regardless, you take deductions in an attempt to retain the fruits of your labor. What business are you in? If you are in a town and work for a business with more than 50 employees you received government welfare.


126 posted on 01/20/2016 10:15:13 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: doosee

My father in law refuses to put it in his car.


127 posted on 01/20/2016 10:15:17 AM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: LibertyOh

Try your local airport and get some 100LL
Airplanes don’t use alky laden gasoline


128 posted on 01/20/2016 10:16:55 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: ConservingFreedom

Well, do you except welfare for tax deductions. Will you accept social security?


129 posted on 01/20/2016 10:17:02 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Neoliberalnot
My employer gets no handout from government either directly or through mandated purchases of its product.

Regardless, you take deductions

Apples and oranges.

If you are in a town and work for a business with more than 50 employees you received government welfare.

Prove it.

130 posted on 01/20/2016 10:19:44 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: LibertyOh

I own 4 active chainsaws. I grant you they do wear out? How did you go about proving that gas with 10% ETOh caused your saw to wear out? Furthermore, why do only small engines suffer this mysterious wearing out caused by ETOH when vehicles burn ETOH at 100 times the rate and yet there longevity is unprecedented. Show me a single controlled experiment that proves your point.


131 posted on 01/20/2016 10:21:14 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: VitacoreVision
So... What's the problem?

The problem is that Trump supports forcing oil companies to buy and use a preset and increasing amount of ethanol each year, even when the amount of gas they produce goes down. When the amount of gas produced went down, the EPA reduced the amount of ethanol that had to be purchased to reflect that market reality. Trump would force oil companies to buy the ethanol anyway, which would increase costs at the pump for all of us.

132 posted on 01/20/2016 10:22:50 AM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Check your local chamber of commerce and ask how they attract new businesses. It is not rocket science, it is corporate welfare. I’m not ok, but you are, right?


133 posted on 01/20/2016 10:24:26 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: VitacoreVision
Congress set the policy of higher ethanol volumes in 2007. Blame Congress, not Trump.

Nice try. Congress also gave the EPA the ability to waive those higher volumes if conditions required. Now Trump is saying that EPA shouldn't be able to waive those volumes even if the ethanol is not needed by the gas producers.

134 posted on 01/20/2016 10:25:18 AM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: CA Conservative

Gasoline is chaser in today’s dollars than it was in 1950. Why whine about it?


135 posted on 01/20/2016 10:26:21 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: VitacoreVision
I support Trump using ethanol to boost support in Iowa.

So then I assume you also support Obamacare. I mean, you support one government mandate that raises our costs and creates market distortions; why wouldn't you support another?

136 posted on 01/20/2016 10:26:56 AM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Neoliberalnot; LibertyOh
You were given links in post #111.
137 posted on 01/20/2016 10:27:29 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: nascarnation

Alkyl laden? Gasoline is most alkyls? ETOh is an alcohol.


138 posted on 01/20/2016 10:28:18 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Neoliberalnot
My employer gets no handout from government either directly or through mandated purchases of its product.

Regardless, you take deductions

Apples and oranges.

If you are in a town and work for a business with more than 50 employees you received government welfare.

Prove it.

Check your local chamber of commerce

I'm not doing your homework for you.

139 posted on 01/20/2016 10:29:14 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: RC one
We produce so much food that if we didn't find uses for it other than eating it, agricultural commodity prices would collapse and producing food would no longer be a profitable endeavor. It raises the price of food and gasoline but the trade off is a stable and abundant food supply and happy prosperous farmers.

If that happened, a number of people would stop farming until the number of producers arrived at a level that could feed the population while commanding adequate prices to be profitable for the farmers.

You are making a classic liberal argument for government interference in the market. I guess you also support sugar subsidies and other agricultural subsidies. Are you also in favor of subsidies for wind and solar and other "green technologies"?

140 posted on 01/20/2016 10:30:52 AM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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