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Donald Trump asks a Reno audience to weigh in on Ted Cruz’s eligibility
WashPo ^ | Jenna Johnson

Posted on 01/10/2016 5:29:53 PM PST by VinL

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To: Right-wing Librarian; xzins
I wish my gut were telling me otherwise, because if Cruz really is the real deal, I would vote for him. And then again, if he was for real, the gov’t-infested socialist/commies would shut him down, similar to how they shut Reagan down so often.

Yeah, but they didn't shut down Reagan, did they? Reagan kept plugging and ended up not only with the nomination but with 2 landslide elections to the Presidency.

Trump is an unknown, but one thing that Reagan was that Trump is not is ..... HUMBLE.

Reagan could take criticism without resorting to personal attacks on his critics. Trump seems to be incapable of taking any legitimate criticism and he seems incapable of keeping his stupid opinions to himself.

Cruz may not be a perfect candidate, but Trump is a loose cannon. I mean, giving praise to the leaders of North Korea's murderous regime because they can lead? What kind of serious candidate could get away with that?

501 posted on 01/11/2016 12:07:44 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Tagline pending.)
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To: P-Marlowe

>>but they didn’t shut down Reagan, did they? Reagan kept plugging and ended up not only with the nomination but with 2 landslide elections to the Presidency.

When I wrote “shut down”, I was thinking about how the libs would always shut him down by announcing his budget was “DOA”, dead on arrival, and how he had to settle for so much less than what he could have accomplished.

>>Trump is an unknown, but one thing that Reagan was that Trump is not is ..... HUMBLE.

When I read about the people who know him personally, (not only friends and former longtime employees, but also people who he meets and helps), they say that he has a public persona, which is as you describe, and a private one, which is the opposite. As I don’t know him personally, I accede to those who know him personally.

>>Reagan could take criticism without resorting to personal attacks on his critics. Trump seems to be incapable of taking any legitimate criticism and he seems incapable of keeping his stupid opinions to himself.

No doubt, his personality is different from Reagan’s. I don’t see the significance here. Our country is in very serious trouble, economic, social, etc., with more to come. I have to choose the candidate who I think will be able to do the most to mitigate it, repair it, and restore it.

>>Cruz may not be a perfect candidate, but Trump is a loose cannon. I mean, giving praise to the leaders of North Korea’s murderous regime because they can lead? What kind of serious candidate could get away with that?

I see Trump as an expert who calculates his strategy much like a military general. He graduated from a military academy, and his classmates seem unanimous in their praise for him and his abilities.

When he makes these remarks, sometimes I wonder if it part of that strategy, or just humorous ad-libs designed to make the libs go nuts and invite him to come onto their TV shows (and get advertising for free). The crazy NK guy sure does lead, that is true, but of course, the rest of it is that he rules strongly because he engenders fear among his people.


502 posted on 01/11/2016 1:01:54 PM PST by Right-wing Librarian
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To: EDINVA
Looks pretty cut and dried to me.

Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.

Looks like the Chief Justice thinks "anchor babies" is a bunch of crap.

Once again, I agree with him.

503 posted on 01/11/2016 5:14:42 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: P-Marlowe
Then Rubio would not be eligible. Where are the Rubio birthers?

Rubio is an anchor baby...baby. So is Jindal.

Why is everyone going after Cruz?

Because of the WaPo question.

504 posted on 01/11/2016 5:18:19 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: P-Marlowe
Hillary Clinton is not qualified to be president.

But she is eligible...until she's indicted.

Cruz is eminently qualified.

Absolutely, but he's not eligible.

505 posted on 01/11/2016 5:23:31 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: RC one
nominate another unqualified foreign born candidate

He's qualified up the ying-yang, but sadly, he's not eligible.

506 posted on 01/11/2016 5:25:34 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: P-Marlowe
The subject is not the baby of illegal immigrants. The subject is whether Ted Cruz is eligible.

Same thing. You set the low standard when you stated there are only two kinds of citizens, naturalized and citizens at birth.

You want anchor babies as president. The founders wanted children of citizens born in the US.

507 posted on 01/11/2016 5:35:32 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: P-Marlowe
One of the things that drove me nuts about GW Bush was that he wouldn't defend himself. I don't have a problem with Trump hitting back. Actually, as a soldier I don't mind him going on the offensive. Against the dems we know what Mr nice McCain and Mr proper Romney accomplished.
508 posted on 01/11/2016 6:32:47 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

PART is cut and dried and part is not. If you were born in the USA and both of your parents were citizens of the USA at the time of your birth, there’s no question but that you are a natural born citizen. If you were born in the USA and your parents were not citizens, there is a question. If you were not ‘born within the jurisdiction” you may have an even bigger question, unless your parent(s) were in the service of the USA at the time of your birth outside the jurisdiction.

But when a Justice writes that the interpretation must be sought elsewhere, the interpretation must be sought elsewhere. SCOTUS in Minor v. Happersett (1874) elected to put off any such definition. The current court would not entertain any case before it that presented the question. BTW, Minor was not about presidential eligibility, but about women’s suffrage.

Back when the Obama eligibility questions were a hot topic, I had hoped that this SCOTUS would tackle the question exactly because of the ‘anchor babies’ question that would inevitably arise I recall at the time, when it appeared Rubio might be a potential candidate who’d encounter the problem, I expressed on one of these threads (if not more) that I wished he would present the question as someone who might have standing. I don’t think at that time that anyone outside of TX knew who Cruz was.


509 posted on 01/11/2016 6:52:46 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Sixteen (or is it seventeen) candidates in the Republican primary and three have questionable eligibility re natural born citizen.


510 posted on 01/11/2016 7:02:22 PM PST by Abby4116
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Agreed. It makes me sick to my stomach honestly.


511 posted on 01/11/2016 7:07:13 PM PST by RC one (race baiting and demagoguery-if you're a Democrat it's what you do.)
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To: EDINVA
If you were born in the USA and your parents were not citizens, there is a question.

No, you're an anchor baby.

If you were not "born within the jurisdiction" you may have an even bigger question

Yeah, then you're not even a citizen.

But when a Justice writes that the interpretation must be sought elsewhere, the interpretation must be sought elsewhere.

Chief Justice Waite was not ambiguous, that "elsewhere" the court alluded to was a definition from common law.

SCOTUS in Minor v. Happersett (1874) elected to put off any such definition.

They didn't put it off, they accepted it, and inadvertently codified it.

BTW, Minor was not about presidential eligibility, but about women's suffrage.

That's immaterial, the term in question "Natural Born Citizen" was addressed and its definition accepted in this case, regardless of main issue before the court.

This opinion was written and presented, the ruling was without dissent.

512 posted on 01/11/2016 9:16:45 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Abby4116
three have questionable eligibility re natural born citizen.

Yeah, Rubio and Jindal are just padding resumes, or something. Cruz may be setting a trap for Obama.

513 posted on 01/11/2016 9:19:21 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: RC one

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Dear moron,

The Hawaii BC is a fraud concocted in NY.

Cruz’ BC is posted in numerous places, including several FR threads.


514 posted on 01/11/2016 9:29:58 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Boardwalk

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Trump loves himself, and his money.

Nothing else.


515 posted on 01/11/2016 9:32:40 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Not according to the constitutional scholars. of course, those are probably the same constitutional scholars that claim Ted Cruz’s canadian birth certifate somehow makes him a Natural born citizen. Moron.


516 posted on 01/11/2016 9:36:57 PM PST by RC one (race baiting and demagoguery-if you're a Democrat it's what you do.)
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To: RC one

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You wouldn’t know a constitution nor a scholar if one smacked you upside the head.

You’re a plastic joke.


517 posted on 01/11/2016 9:43:12 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

this is all you have left, personal attacks.


518 posted on 01/11/2016 9:57:37 PM PST by RC one (race baiting and demagoguery-if you're a Democrat it's what you do.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

That’s wishful thinking, but if it makes you happy, who am I to burst your bubble? Believe what you will.


519 posted on 01/11/2016 10:17:28 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: editor-surveyor

You’re only depressing yourself. Such a sad little person. Try to smile for us. Go Trump Go!


520 posted on 01/12/2016 2:33:29 AM PST by Boardwalk
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